Quote (dirtyknections @ June 02 2008,16:56)Did John Really question? Or was it a momentary lapse in faith?The experiences Jesus felt during and after his baptism..would only be felt and experienced by him…when the holy spirit works on you..although I may be present..I can not truly feel and experience what you are experiening….likewise John…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,17:02)Hi not3, Is that how you can grasp it now?I think you are really stretching now…..

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 02 2008,16:55)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 02 2008,16:33)Isaiah,I'm curious, why do you call Bro 94 – SDN?Six Digit Number. You are so funny!!I asked 94 and he said he didn't know either! Now we know. That's funny.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,16:16)Hi not3, Is God not allowed to use servant/tools? Should we restrict meanings to what we can now grasp?We should try not to add to basic understanding.Alone is alone.

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 02 2008,16:51)Hey 3in1…Cool…i'll do that..What about Proverbs 8…wisdom personified..referencing JEsus?Wisdom is refered to as a women. Unless Jesus had transgender issues in the transporting/incarnation process?

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 02 2008,16:16)In Luke 2:49 a 12 year old Yeshua told His parents that He had to be in His “Father's House”. The language here suggests to me He had knowledge then too.Knowledge of what?I think to some degree we are filling in the blanks according to our own peculiar dogmas.I'm sure God told Jesus he was his Father. After…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 02 2008,16:11)the heavens were opened up to him”…which clearly shows (to me) that he obtained knowledge of his prior existence in heaven and any memorys associated with that existence…Wow. That is clear to you? Amazing, considering that is nowhere taught in scripture.Do you think those present, including John…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ June 02 2008,16:06)THen when God said, “let us make man in our image” who was he talking to? from a non trinitarian perspective of courseHey DK,Check your NIV Study Bible under the notes for just one idea on this passage. There are many ideas. It doesn't necessarily mean he was having a chat with Jesus.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,16:34)Hi not3, Conception certainly gives us a body and usually the breath of God given to Adam. But with the second Adam God chose to intervene. God is sovereign.Did God change all the rules? Mary was still pregnant for 9 months.She went through labor pains and delieverd a child.What was the intervention? The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,16:37)Hi not3, He told us where he had come from and that he was returning there. He alone had seen God and no man has done so. He had glory with God and sought it again.He is the bread from heaven.Is this for me, Nick, or did you put my name by mistake? I haven't been contributing to this thread.I just asked…[Read more]

Isaiah,I'm curious, why do you call Bro 94 – SDN?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,16:14)Hi not3, Why should Mary giving his physical genes to form his body alter the fact that he was from above?Conception gives more to a person than just skin and bones. Personality is formed and is a combination of attributes, just to name one process that takes place. You know all this, surely?I guess if all…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,16:09)Hi 94, And indeed the mother of Jesus Christ, the monogenes Son of God.This is the second sentence from you in 5 minutes that the first has a cancel on the second.If you truly believed Jesus was conceived in Mary, you could not hold onto your theory of the preexistent monogenes Son.

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2008,16:00)Quote (942767 @ June 02 2008,13:14)Hi:The Greek interlinear the logos or saying became flesh.  The prophetic word of God regarding His Son became flesh or a reality?The prophetic Word of God below became a reality:Quote Luk 1:26 ¶ And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of G…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 02 2008,11:50)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 02 2008,08:27)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,06:22)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 01 2008,12:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2008,07:50)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 01 2008,03:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2008,22:56)Hi not3,Were the angelic sons with God in the beginning?Why not the firstborn monogenes…[Read more]

…..nothing was made that was made….And how do you interpret this alongside of the fact that God said he was ALONE?Here we go around the mullberry bush, the mullberry bush…….

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,11:51)Hi not3, We are indeed vessels.2 Corinthians 4:7But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.2 Timothy 2:20But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,11:29)The second Adam came from among men having been sent from heaven.In my opinion, knowing your interpretation of this idea, the first part of your sentence is cancelled out by the second.

I do not deny the truth of the scriptures, Nick.But once again, I do deny your interpretation of them.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2008,08:57)Hi not3, What do you not understand about the Word becoming flesh?Who said I didn't understand?I personally think you made that last statement to be sarcastic and now you are back-peddling. If you follow our dialog, I never said I didn't understand the passage in John.