Tim,This is a no win situation we are all in. It's no use to keep it going. Only more finger pointing, more hurt, and more confusion will be the result. I'm terribly sorry for the hurt that was caused to all of us through this discussion. I guess we should dust ourselves off and move on? Nothing will be resolved here.Now I am encouraged by t8…[Read more]

The reason I brought up the checked boxes for race is because we had an adoptee panel speak last month at a lecture. There were several adoptees who were very disturbed by this “non-white” box and the “other” box. To be thought of as a “other” was just too much for these kids. I can appreciate their feelings even though I never have to check…[Read more]

My church growing up always preached hell-fire and brimstone. Turn or burn.I grew-up with tremendous guilt applied to anything that wasn't holy or of God. I just always figured I would burn in hell.It's a fairly new concept for me to begin thinking that all will be saved. Even those who commit murder and so on? What about the commandments,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 15 2005,17:30)So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.Why was Michael's name changed to Jesus when he came to earth? Why not just continue to call him Michael? I…[Read more]

Cato,I see that you have some life experiences that have helped you form your ideas surrounding racism. I appreciate and respect your experiences.I cannot say that I have experienced anything even close to what you have, brother. I am sorry you had to go through these times in your life. Certainly it wasn't fair for you to lose your job to a…[Read more]

Jodi and Nick,Do you think those who have failed to receive the Son during their lifetime will be raised to eternal damnation? Or do you think they will get a chance to believe…… I've heard both sides and honestly can see both sides in scripture.

Cato,Quote Yet I am White. Hathnot a White eyes? hath not a White hands, organs,dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed withthe same food, hurt with the same weapons, subjectto the same diseases, healed by the same means,warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, asa black is? If you ##### us, do we not bleed?if you tickle us, do we…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 07 2008,10:04)Anyway my son went faithfully out of fear for about 4 months and then stopped again.Sorry, but I think this is just a shameful story.  I don't blame your son for running away and wanting to quit this school.  Would you want to go to school if you were constantly ganged up on and forced to protect y…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 07 2008,14:12)If a black, white, yellow, & red man all applied for a job and had the same qualifications and experience, I would choose the one who had a good heart.Me – standing – clapping. Giving you respect for your experience and what you have taken from it.Thanks, t8.Mandy

Cato, my friend,I listen to you like I would my father. Don't ask me why. I guess I have an admiration for you that goes beyond just saying you're a good brother in the Lord. I think that you are more open-minded than most here and I am a kindred spirit of that kind of thinking. So I will take what you have said and sleep on it. OK? That is…[Read more]

Tim,Quote Please tell me which actual sentence appalled you?It was not just one sentence, but many sentences. It was your overall attitude and lack of empathy towards minorities. You never even tried to see through his angry words towards the center of his hurt. He faces real, daily challenges as a minority. You on the other hand now have a…[Read more]

Hi,A lurker sent me this in an email. I thought I would post it and see what other's think. Also, I want to encourage this individual to join our group openly and share his ideas.Thanks,MandyWHO? OR WHAT IS GOD?? THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD ! ! ! OR…[Read more]

Ah…..we were so close! The definition of true conception does not fit your theology. So you either have to deny that you believe in true conception, or you need to be more specific about which “parts” of conception that you believe are true, imo.Take care, I'm going to leave this forum for today. Too many hot buttons have been pushed on me…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 07 2008,03:27)Because some of the discussions here did not belong in this thread, I started another thread here.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y107390Don't go there if you are not at all interested in my response to dirtyk. It is your right to not view it.TimI sure wish I would have read this post first before I went…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ June 07 2008,02:10)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 05 2008,23:32)I guess maybe a women in office is OK then?The USA isn't ready for one……certainly not Hiliary.I think you know the reason for this. A lingering product of all Abrahamic religions is the view that women are inferior to men.Hey Kevin,As a women, I do not feel inferior to my…[Read more]

Quote (Adam Pastor @ June 06 2008,22:07)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 06 2008,05:55)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 06 2008,14:57)You as well as i know Jesus was a true exact copy of the first Adam, thats why he is referenced as a (SECOND) ADAM . there was no difference between Him and the first Adam or Paul couldn't have used that example< he would have been…[Read more]

Jesus loves the little children.All the children of the world;red and yellow, black and white,they are precious in his sight.Jesus loves the little children of the world!

Bro Gene,You say,Quote I never looked at Irvin as inferior to meAnd then you said,Quote DK……to be honest about racial preferences, when I had a large electrical operation years ago, I thought about what your saying, if I had a black man and a Mexican, and a white man, with the exact same abilities applying for a job, which one would i have…[Read more]

THIS IS MY POST FROM ANOTHER THREAD. IT SHOULD BE HERE ON THIS THREAD.Good morning Cato,Quote I find the claim of since I am not a minority I can't understand unproductive (though I know you meant it in a helpful way). It may be unproductive, but as I said, it is your luxury to not have to worry about these things on a daily basis. Most folks…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ June 07 2008,04:35)Quote (dirtyknections @ June 07 2008,03:41)The the problem with Non-minorities like yourself is they have the same answer everytime this topic is brought upAnd exactly where in all of my posts did I say that I was  non minority? Your prejudice is showing thru again.TimTim,I am shocked and appalled by your…[Read more]