Ok i see that they have a somewhat simular view. My view would probably be more xtreme than their binity doctrine. I am saying that The bible teaches the Caananite religion through the perspective of those who followed YHVH the Good Son of El, the firstborn and creator. The Hebrews being fortunate enough to belong to the only surving elohim of…[Read more]

I checked out those sites trcg.com and I don not believe what they believe on pratically everything I read. So you must not know my view.

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,16:03)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,21:17)Fully read my post under biblical henotheism so I don't have to repeat alot of it here. Please.  No thanks. I've already seen your view. It can be found at http:realtruth.org and http://www.thercg.org . I don't need to read it twice. Anyone who makes the bold assertion that they…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,16:03)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,21:17)Fully read my post under biblical henotheism so I don't have to repeat alot of it here. Please.  No thanks. I've already seen your view. It can be found at http:realtruth.org and http://www.thercg.org . I don't need to read it twice. Anyone who makes the bold assertion that they…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,13:17)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,16:36)•v33 – if the Jews did not know this forgotten God, the Father, they sure seemed to think so back in John 8:41. In any case, who do you suppose the Jews were referring to when they said “God” and they called Him Father back in 8:41?My Answer: John 8 54Jesus replied, “If I…[Read more]

Fully read my post under biblical henotheism so I don't have to repeat alot of it here. Please.

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,13:29)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 15 2007,17:18)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,10:12)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:10)MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.Not if all things were given to the Son from The Father. He inherited it all.  He became most…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,13:35)MS, What of these verses?

Mat 5:9  “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Luk 20:36  for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Rom 8:14  For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. Gal 3:26  for in…

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,13:03)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,13:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,12:51)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,12:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,12:14)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,12:05)He is the source of all, without the power given to his son then YHVH can do nothing.  In…[Read more]

personification

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,12:51)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,12:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,12:14)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,12:05)He is the source of all, without the power given to his son then YHVH can do nothing.  In that sense yes the Father did have something to do with it.MSThe hebrew scriptures says…[Read more]

I actually find it interesting that atheist scholars pretty much agree with my position. The call it the evolution into monotheism. It is those of the faith who are upholding doctrines established by late jews and late christians. Because it is so hammered into their heads that the bible is talking of only one God that they can't see the…[Read more]

The Godhead is a binity. That is the order of administration. You say trinity because the Holy spirit gets personified. You take this understanding and make 3 beings (2 actually) and make them one being with multiple personalities.However, I hold that Jesus (YHVH) is a distinct being not just one personality of a Godforce. He is one of the sons of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,12:14)Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,12:05)He is the source of all, without the power given to his son then YHVH can do nothing.  In that sense yes the Father did have something to do with it.MSThe hebrew scriptures says “By myself” “None Other”.If you say that YHWH did by the power of the Father then…[Read more]

He is the source of all, without the power given to his son then YHVH can do nothing. In that sense yes the Father did have something to do with it.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2007,11:21)MSYou say…Quote I am saying there are two distinct beings. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament creator and savior of the world. The Father is the original source of all, the king of a pantheon of sons who are now deceased (or at least imprisoned) except for the one Good Son who inherited the whole…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:15)MS,Also whether it be “angels of God” or “sons of God”, what of this?

Dan 10:21  “However, I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth. Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince. Dan 12:1  “Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands g…

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Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 16 2007,10:12)Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:10)MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.Not if all things were given to the Son from The Father. He inherited it all.  He became most high.Example:Psa 97:9 For You are the LORD Most High over all the earth;…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 16 2007,10:10)MS,But you've yet to address that YHWH was called “Most High”. This puts a humongous hurdle in your path.Not if all things were given to the Son from The Father. He inherited it all. He became most high.

My Answer:Deuteronomy 6:44`Hear, O Israel, YHVH our Elohim, is one YHVHThe verse states that there is only one YHVH, one version. (many versions existed including some that had a YHVH with an Ashteroth consort).YHVH is Israels Elohim, admitting other nations had their own Elohim.IN addition to this answer. This verse can be translated as:Hear, O…[Read more]