I know that these studies I post are long. But, if you truly want to understand my position then read them. If you see all kinds of errors then set me straight. I have researched this alot (not a pride issue, I know we all study alot). I am not just picking a view I like best nor am I just remaining faithful to a tradition based off of where…[Read more]

THE HEAVENLY DIVINE COUNCIL1. For nearly the past two millennia, there has been a general misunderstanding of the way God governs the earth. As this study will establish, there is a heavenly council of spirit beings that currently rules over our world. Paul referred to this group of spiritual entities in the sixth chapter of Ephesians: EPHESIANS…[Read more]

THE HEAVENLY DIVINE COUNCIL1. For nearly the past two millennia, there has been a general misunderstanding of the way God governs the earth. As this study will establish, there is a heavenly council of spirit beings that currently rules over our world. Paul referred to this group of spiritual entities in the sixth chapter of Ephesians: EPHESIANS…[Read more]

The fact is there is alot, overwhelming almost, of evidence for the governing council and for the Jesus being the angel of the lord. So much evidence that the early church fathers mention these ideas at length. So much scriptural evidence that you will have to keep saying over and over, “Well, I know the scriptures say that, but what it really…[Read more]

I don't quite follow you Nick on the witnessed proofs.However, I have huge numbers of scripture and a huge number of 1 century Jewish and Christian writings that attest to:A divine councilJesus being the angel of the lordJesus being createdChrist walked the earth

Christ rides a white horse at his second coming. Is this literal of allegorical?

THE LORD OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ONEWhen viewed without bias or preconceived ideas, the Bible reveals quite a lot about the structure of the Godhead. Unfortunately, most people's view of God is shaped primarily by tradition, with Scripture taking a secondary position. Trinitarians believe that God is three distinct but inseparable persons in one…[Read more]

Please read the above study about Jesus being an angel. Then after reading, tell me if you do not, at the very least, see a compelling case. Search your heart honestly.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 07 2007,07:24)Quote The bible says that Jesus is an angel. It's just that you interpret the very same verses differently. We share the same text, just not the same interpretation. Perhaps, you can explain why the early church fathers agree with me.Here is an excellent study on the issue:MercyEspecially this One!Exod…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 07 2007,07:20)Mercy and David!”Polytheism”Belief in several deities: the worship of or belief in more than one deity, especially several deities.So tell me. Do you believe these scriptures?Deut 5:7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.Exod 23:13And in all that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no…[Read more]

Nick,The bible says that Jesus is an angel. It's just that you interpret the very same verses differently. We share the same text, just not the same interpretation. Perhaps, you can explain why the early church fathers agree with me.Here is an excellent study on the issue:THE NEW TESTAMENT IDENTIFICATION OF THE MESSIAH1. The first part of this…[Read more]

The main problem I feel is that they believe they would be slipping into polytheism to not acknowledge the trinity.This is guiding there lack of honesty. Not that they are being maliciously dishonest rather self deception.We have over the years created a definition for what polytheism and monotheism is. All indication from scripture and history…[Read more]

What truly is the definition of polytheism?Aries, Thor, Athena and Apollo are examples of gods.Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, and Satan are examples of angels.These two groups are both supernatural beings that are not all powerful, all knowing and eternal.The Father called his sons gods. Paul said that when you make offers to idols you are making offers…[Read more]

Again is it really polytheism If only the Father has always existed as one First God. Any action after that is a reflection of his will. If he wants to create sons and give them positions of authority it doesnt not change the central truth of One God above all and before all.Comparitively the concept of the trinity sounds more like polytheism.

♦ 1 Corinthians 8: 5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. ♦ Psalms 89:6 For who in the heaven can be compared unto…[Read more]

I didnt make that charge of scripture tampering. I should have clarified that I was copying and pasting the work of the scholars. However, I do believe that scripture has been tampered with. It's obvious thats why we have different manuscripts.

El's name is also YHWHHe gave his name to his son.So Jesus received the name YHWH also.Exodus 23 20 “See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in…[Read more]

Good night, Enjoyed it as well.

sorry that last ones source is:(pp. 538-539, vol. I, The Ante-Nicene Fathers, “Dialogue with Trypho”)

here is a good one:”. . . Christ being Lord, and God the Son of God, and appearing formerly in power as Man, and Angel, and in the glory of fire as at the bush, so also was manifested at the judgment executed on Sodom, has been demonstrated fully by what has been said. . . . And do not suppose, sirs, that I am speaking superfluously when I repeat…[Read more]