That is a good one Nick, Thanks!Examples for us lest we fall. Pretty strong words.

Ok we agree then.But, why are you saying that this verse is describing Satan then? Unless, I am totally misunderstanding you.Rev 17:88The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of…[Read more]

My uncle passed away this week. He was a man of God. He always pointed me towards truth and the scriptures. We would spend hours discussing scripture. He was a walking testamony to the faith. I know people who came to the Lord from just seeing my uncles example without even being witnessed to verbally. I love my uncle very much. He is not “just my…[Read more]

It may not be the only solitary aspect of the delusion, however, you make a good point that the “once saved always saved doctrine” could definately be part of the “lie” that they believe. I think the delusion sent most likely extends to the full spectrum of false doctrines. However, it is very interesting that the context of the verse implies…[Read more]

I do not believe in once saved always saved. I don't think anything can seperate us from God but I do think we can walk away from him. Below I will give some verses to support my position.Matthew 13:5-65Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6But when the sun came up, the…[Read more]

Reposting this for easier viewing so you won't have to scroll back.I believe Abaddon / Apollyon is the antichrist.I believe the angels that left their first estate are loosed in the end times. Their king is the Antichrist.Rev 9:1-31The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 23 2006,20:37)HI M, Starting with what we can knowRev 17.8″8The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I simply don't know and was hoping somebody else had info.

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 28 2006,22:24)You stick with young, I will with old, the good old King James. Dear Mercy, would you ask this question if you knew the answer? Evidently you do not know for sure? I do know for sure, for I have experienced it. All those who have experienced it also know for sure. For the rebirth is in the Spirit.…[Read more]

Does it really say Born Again? Or does it say, Born from Above?Young's literal translation:3Jesus answered and said to him, `Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one may not be born from above, he is not able to see the reign of God;'

One God who begot one Son who gives us his spirit to reconcile us to the one God.

And yet the Roman Catholic Church has a completely different doctrine than that of scripture.

The Scriptures disagree with your Pastor:II Peter 1:1616We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. I agree with David. We are all individually responsible for seeking out truth. Some of these verses may also help. We should all be doing…[Read more]

Anyone care to comment on my previous post? I am curious what people think.

I believe Abaddon / Apollyon is the antichrist.I believe the angels that left their first estate are loosed in the end times. Their king is the Antichrist.Rev 9:1-31The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2When he opened the Abyss, smoke…[Read more]

Just scanning over that and not fully digging into it. (I will in the near future as times allows.) The author fails to realize that the book of enoch is corrupted and has several fragments not actually part of the original book attached to it. “I see most of his concerns stems from the Noah content”. An apocrypha book known as the “Testament of…[Read more]

How does the book of Enoch describe Jesus so precisely?Why does the book of Enoch have fulfilled prophecy?Why does Jude quote it?Why is the new testament filled with terminology, parables,quotes, references and corralations to the book of Enoch?Why did the pre-nicean church consider it scripture?Why does the view I am proposing fit into the mosaic…[Read more]

I have given rebuttals to all your points before on this forum. I have no desire to continue to banter back and forth. I would just leave it with reminding you that we are to test the spirits. You havent even read the book, because, you consider it a waste of time. Maybe, that is what you consider testing. I call it dismissal. You can't test…[Read more]

So did you pick option 2?Jude6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, <———Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They s…[Read more]

I have to keep posting on this because peope don't even know what the Book of Enoch says.Yes people just read the book and then you will either have to assume one of the following, because it is just that obvious.1) It is a text used by a first century jewish cult to fabricate and create a new religion called Christianity.2) It is a text written…[Read more]