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Quote 2besee This is a lot deeper as it is from the book of Revelations, so needs to be slowly read. but: Rev 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly in midheaven, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great.” Matt 24:26-28 So, if they say to you, `Lo, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out; if they say, `Lo, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man. Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together. “ Compare the words in both Revelations and Matthew 'Eagels/Birds' and 'Gather/Gathered' and see how Jesus' coming in Matthew is shining from the east to the west as lightning does (quick and bright) and how in Rev an Angel is seen standing in the sun. I believe that the coming of Jesus will be quick and bright and there will be no need to wonder if it is the day of the Lord/return of Jesus or if it is not. It will be obvious. … and every eye will definitely see.  some, though, will see through their spirit eyes and welcome, rather than fear the coming of the son of man.

Brother 2Besee,

I believe that Mat 24:26-28 is not talking about the return of Jesus at all.  It is talking about the preaching of the Gospel.  It started in the east and ends at the Pacific Ocean, as far west as you can  go.  The body, eagles are as such, where the Word is, there will be where His children will be.

I also believe that Rev 19, is after Armageddon.  At this battle every eye will see Him, before that He comes as a thief in the night.

Did every eye see Him when He left into the clouds? No, only the TRUE believers seen Him leave in the clouds. And He has returned the same way.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Sorry, don't know how I typed that, it didn't make any since to me either.

Question? Who will see the Jesus come in the Clouds?

God Bless
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Question? Who will see the Jesus come on He left in the Clouds

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Brother Wakeup,

I believe you are wrong in your interpretation what Paul said in 1st Corinthains 15.  Paul was speaking of our flesh and our blood.  

Paul also said that the 1st Adam was a living soul and the last Adam was a quickening Spirit.  So is Paul saying that Jesus wasn't a real man.  No, He was real, wasn't He.  So Paul was not saying that He was a Spirit only.

What Paul was saying was that this fallen vessel that we are has to be changed.

Scripture also tells us that Jesus in His flesh, came and walked and talked and ate with the disciples for 40 days.
He was a real person, not a Spirit.  He was able to change and move with a thought or Word, just like we will be able to.  He is not limited by time or space and neither will we that are in Him.

We will also be real people,  we will not be Angels, we were created man and will will always be man.
We will be changed, in that there is no doubt.  In my flesh, I shall see God, just like Job.

That is my two cents, brother.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Nice Brother Gene,

1 Cor 13:4-8
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails……..

This is Agape (God's Love)
This is not MAN'S type of Love as most have, this is GOD'S own LOVE in man.

And without it.
I COR 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not Love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not Love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not Love, it profiteth me nothing.

This is a man without God's Love (Agape), He may still be nice and he may still love his friends and neighbors with man's TYPE of love.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Sorry, posted in wrong place

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Nice Brother Gene,
1 Cor 13:4-8
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails……..

This is Agape (God's Love)
This is not MAN'S type of Love as most have, this is GOD'S own LOVE in man.

And without it.
I COR 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not Love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not Love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not Love, it profiteth me nothing.

This is a man without God's Love (Agape), He may still be nice and he may still love his friends and neighbors with man's TYPE of love.

God Bless
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The receiving of the Holy spirit is not the resurrection. In the resurrection one will be given a glorified body. Matthew 22:30   For in the *RESURRECTION* they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but ARE AS THE ANGELS of God in heaven. Pantecost is NOT the RESURRECTION. wakeup.

In this my brother we agree.  

The 1st resurrection started with Jesus and will end at Armageddon.

You didn't answer either of my questions though.

God Bless
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ok,I will tell you ; according to the law any work that a men does for HIMSELF is consider WORK  got it now work done out of LOVE is NOT considered as works , BECAUSE THEY ARE DONE FOR OTHERS ,DO YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT “AGAPE ” MEANS AND WHAT THE “ROYAL LAW ” OF LOVE HIS IT IS CALLED ALSO “DEEDS”” Edited by terraricca on Jan. 09 2013,15:30 ————– Pierre

Brother Pierre,

The Definition: Agape is selfless, sacrificial, unconditional love  

which could go beyond GOOD DEEDS.

This seems more of a type of “Philia” love.  
The Definition: Philia means close friendship or brotherly love in Greek.

Thanks
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according to the LAW what are the works of men ————– Pierre

Brother,
To live by LAW is DEATH !!!!!

Do you live by LAW?

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AGAPE It is Love without regards of return. how do you see this in scriptures because according to my understanding God is regarding to receive a return to the LOVE he gives to all, ————– Pierre

So Brother, are you saying that we are saved by WORKS?

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Brother Wakeup,

I 1st need to back up to this.

you said, Some say the second coming is at pantecost; well this does not make sense,

1) because the apostles were given the Holy spirit to teach and spread the word.

2) They will not be resurrected and are not,because they have along way to go to do the preaching.

Please explain 1 and 2?

My thoughts
There were 120 in the upper room that received the Holy Ghost.  And have been thousands upon thousands that have received the Holy Ghost since then.
Do you Disagree?

God Bless
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My Brother, Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using. Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love? God Bless bro. Marlin m1 could you show me that charity is LOVE and not part of it ???or one aspect of it

Brother Pierre,

As I told you above, the word used here is “AGAPE”.   That is the Word that Paul used and the King James translated it to “Charity”

That is the same word that John used as GOD'S OWN LOVE.
I JOHN 4:7 † Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  8 † He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

If you disagree with this, please show why.

God Bless
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no it does not mean “LOVE”” it is however one part of it , and this is not what I am after ; I am looking if anyone know the ROYAL RULE LOVE his ————– Pierre

My Brother,

Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using.

Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love?

God Bless
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Some say the second coming is at pantecost; well this does not make sense,because the apostles were given the Holy spirit to teach and spread the word.They will not be resurrected and are not,because they have along way to go to do the preaching.Where is common sense.

Brother Wakeup,

Can you explain what you are saying in this paragraph?

Thanks
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and charity does not equal “LOVE”

My Brother,

The word Charity in the King James is “Agape”
GREEK LEXICON — STRONG'S NUMBER 26
 26  »      agape    {ag-ah'-pay}    ajgavph    from 25; TDNT — 1:21,5; n f

AV  — love (86)
    — charity (27)
    — dear (1)
    — charitably + 2596 (1)
    — feast of charity (1) [116]
1) brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence
2) love feasts

So yes my brother as used by Paul in Corinthians, it does mean Love.

God Bless
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so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it how then would you know were to go wen I am gone ————– Pierre

Sorry my Brother Pierre,  we are not talking about your directions, we are speaking of the tree of LIFE, (WORD).

satan is the tree of knowledge.  For it is a mixed tree (GOOD and EVIL), so you will get some truth and some lies. satan's lies will sound really good to the mind.

God is the tree of LIFE and God speaks to the heart.  He only speaks truth and it will only be recognized by the heart.  

We are told to live by FAITH, not knowledge.

God Bless
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Hi 2besee,

You said, “I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.”

In this I agree with you,  no one will come to Christ during the millennium.  satan will be bound, so the tester will not be present.

I also agree with you that our day for salvation is now.

I disagree with you that the 1000 years has been going on for two thousand years.  During this 1000 years of peace, satan will be bound.  Everyone knows that he sure hasn't been bound for any of the last 2000 years.

When Jesus raised from the dead, did not many of the old testament saint raise with Him.  Is not this the 1st resurrection.  MAT 27:52-53

The only gentile saints to live during the 1000 year reign will be the wise virgins, which will be very few.  All the other gentile saints, (foolish virgins) will not be raised from the dead until after the 1000 years is done, for they will have to give their blood to be purged during the great tribulation.

God Bless
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JOHN 14:6 † Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Truth is not what you come up with with your mind!!!!!!!

God Bless
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The mellennium would be as God says it would be.

I agree brother.

ZEC 14:7 † But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

I Love this, right before the Great Tribulation hits, (it is not day or night), THE LIGHT CAME, a voice of one crying to the people, come out of her, be not partakers of her sins, come back to the Word.

Did the people listen, can the people hear, do they see, Only a very small number

God Bless
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