Pierre,I am sorry brother, I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase or explain your question.Marlin

Pierre,Thanks for your answer.  I see you have this group being the 144,000 Jews of the 12 tribes.I see this slightly different then you.  I see this group as the bride of Christ, mainly Gentile. These are the only ones to be raised until the 1000 years is over.  And also if you noticed in Rev 20:4. They rained with Christ for the whole 1000 ye…[Read more]

Toby,A nice read, but I don't think you have much scripture for what you believe.\Have a nice HolidayMarlin

Pierre,I believe we believe this the same, may I ask you.Who are those Rev 20:4 Seated? and those beheaded?ThanksMarlin

Journey42,Hi brother,  you said, All who believe in Christ will be resurrected at his coming.Tell me where does it say that.  I know it says many are called, few are chosen.  I also know that many people believe that just make a decision for Christ and it is all over.  Do whatever you want.I tell you the truth, that is one of the biggest lies tha…[Read more]

Wakeup,I agree with some of what you wrote, Tell me, who are they that are spoke of in 1 Thes 4:15-17Who will raise?Which Resurrection 1 or 2?Who are they that are still alive and will be changed in a split second of time?Marlin

Brother Georg,You said, Quote So what you're saying is, the saints were good to each other.Brother , I believe you had better read Matthew 25 again,  for that is not what it says.  These are not the saints, the saints will be doing the judging with Christ. This says AS a shepherd.  These are not the Bride, He is not their shepherd.  They will be…[Read more]

Brother Ed J,Brother thanks for your comment.I will just to take what you said, point by point.Ed J said, Jesus said “the time (483 years) is fulfilled”. (Mark 1:15) My brother 483 years is 69 weeks.  Jesus Himself fulfilled the 1st 1/2 of the 70th week.DANIEL 9:26 † And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for hi…[Read more]

Brother Georg,They will be judge on how they treated the saints, when they were alive on the earth.Jesus spoke of it in Mat 25Mat 25:33 † And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.34 † Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the fou…[Read more]

I know this is old, Just thought I would throw out my thoughts on America in the bible.I believe America is in Rev 13. REV 13:11 † And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. This beast came up out of the earth (very few people)..  You noticed the 1st beast came out of the se…[Read more]

Hi Brother Georg,I believe you quote, 1Cr 15:22   For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.to show that all will be saved.  I believe this isn't what this scripture means.The next line shows that Paul is only speaking to those in Christ and at a certain time.I COR 15:23 † But every man in his own order: Christ the fir…[Read more]

Journey42,thank you for responding my brother.   I see this slightly different then you.  I will try to put it to words, so please bear with me.I see the bride as a distinct group, not the people of the 5th seal.REV 6:9  † And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for…[Read more]

Journey42 & Georg,I take it from above that you both believe that the 144,000 are the bride? Do I have that correct?Marlin

Georg,You will get no argument from me, you just added to the case that I made. And yes I did know about the 68 million mortars and the 666.That number has been said to be a lot of things, including bar codes. But we are told it is the number of a man. The man which is and then is not and then is and then is not. One comes dies, another comes…[Read more]

Georg,REV 20:5 † But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Brother you shouldn't change the Word of God, just to make your doctrine fit. If we don't understand something then we should pray for understanding. There were people on the earth, not all died at that battle. Z…[Read more]

Journey42,I believe I used the wrong term here. I didn't mean we wouldn't be Spirit. For we are Spirit now in a flesh body. We will always be Spirit. When Jesus returned and walked and talked and eat with the disciples, He was a Spirit being, in flesh. We will be such.MAT 27:51 † And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from t…[Read more]

Journey42,Well I would say it would be those that Zechariah spoke of in Chapter 14.ZEC 14:16 † And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.These people are the people that d…[Read more]

GeorgWhat does, 'meet the Lord in the air' mean? how far up? does it not say the Lord is coming down, v. 16?I agree with you on this, that it is just another dimension. Jerusalem will be attacked, not to long from now.I also agree with you on this1Cor. 15:51 applies only to the saints, first resurrection.That is true and praise God of that,…[Read more]

Gerog,I enjoyed the read,  you have a lot of speculation here.  You have the 10 already come and gone.  You have the 8th to be the United Nations.  I know that this is the belief of many. The empire of the IRON legs was pagan Rome,  The iron part of the empire of the feet and toes is PAPAL FALSE CHRISTIAN ROME.  Rome goes all the way to the end,…[Read more]

Journey42Only those that are sealed in with Christ.EPHESIANS 1:13 † In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 † Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unt…[Read more]