Pierre,Show me where I said that God had a beginning? Marlin

Jodi,MATTHEW 1:16 †     And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Matthew only says that Jesus was born by Mary.  It doesn't say she had any part of the creation of Jesus.  You are told flat out the the Holy Ghost would over shadow her.  No part of Mary or Joseph was in that created cell.  God c…[Read more]

Pierre, Quote NOW DID JOHN TALKS ABOUT A WORD ? OR DID HE TALKED ABOUT JESUS CHRIST “THE WORD OF GOD” ?ROMANS 10:17 †     So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I TIMOTHY 4:5 †     For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. HEBREWS 11:3 †     Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of…[Read more]

Page 7,Quote And if we play that game, where will it leave us?  We will have Nick trying to pass unscriptural things as truth, saying, “You must be guided by the spirit to understand it”.We will have you and I saying the same thing to prove the OPPOSITE of what Nick believes.We will have the Trinitarians saying, “I know it doesn't make sense to…[Read more]

God didn't become a Spirit, He is a Spiritual being.  He was in Jesus reconciling the world to Himself. JOHN 6:63 †     It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.On the earth He was Spiritual.JOHN 3:6 †     That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that…[Read more]

Quote Jesus was born of the seed of his father Joseph, who was of the seed of David, who was of the seed of Abraham!Jody,  You might want to recheck this,the way it sounds.  Jesus was the son of, not the seed of.Jesus, was the created cell of God, placed in Mary.  He was in the line of David, because He was raised by Joseph and Mary as a son, no…[Read more]

Quote Ephesians 4:13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;T8,This was the other Greek word to which I referred in an earlier post.  The word is “aner”, which is used to distinguish between a male and a female.  It does not have t…[Read more]

Page 2Quote Hope you don't mind if i join in for a bit, i think i might be able to help interpret what both Journey and Wakeup are saying…or at least, attempt to with my understanding?God created the Man Jesus by His spoken Word.Jesus never existed before until this moment…not YET..And this Man was created with His own soul just like us.And…[Read more]

Page 1, Wakeup,If I read your dissertation right, I believe you have it pretty close. It was God's Word and God became flesh and dwelt among us. reconciling the world to Himself.Marlin

Quote My point is that it is talking about a PERSON, like you said.  But God is a PERSON, and not a man.  The angels are PERSONS, and not human beings.So the meaning is that no PERSON, except for the Lamb, was able to open the scroll.  The meaning is NOT that no HUMAN BEING/MEMBER OF MANKIND was able to open it.The KJV shouldn't have put “man”, be…[Read more]

Mike, I couldn't find your topic “For Wakeup”Marlin

Nick I also agree with you here, too.Quote Hi MB,The WORD spoke through the vessel of Jesus.No surprises there.God is the Word, He has always been the Word and He will always be the Word.God did exactly what He said He would do.  He became flesh that He might reconcile the world to Himself.Quote II COR 5:19 † To wit, that God was in Christ, re…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Hi Marlin,The KJV translates as “no man”, but it is the Greek word “oudeis”, which really means “no one” – which is how the rest of the translations render it.GREEK LEXICON — STRONG'S NUMBER 3762Click here to view all verses that use this Greek word.  3762  »      oudeis    {oo-dice'} including feminine oudemia {oo-dem-ee'-ah}  and ne…[Read more]

t8,God made us man and that is what we will always be.  We will always be man in heaven or on earth.II COR 5:1 † For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. This flesh and blood that we have is fallen, it is evil.  Nothing can be done to…[Read more]

Just maybe we should define man.  I believe there is scripture that states man will be in heaven.  Is that going to be the same flesh we have now, of course not.  Here is a scripture that John speaks of.REV 5:2 † And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3     †     And…[Read more]

Quote Hi MB,You speak of Jesus CHRIST.God gave this man the fulness of His SpiritGod was in the anointed one from the Jordan reconciling the world to Himself.Hi MB,Indeed the WORD was with God and was GOD.That WORD was made flesh.But men highlight the flesh and not the Spirit/WordMike,This is what I agreed to.  Sorry I didn't post the Nick's…[Read more]

Quote so in your opinion we all have it wrong right ?tell me this ARE THE WRITTEN SCRIPTURES OF TODAY AT THE LEAST SOME TRUE TO THE WRITTEN COPY ON HAND FROM Greek AND Hebrew ORIGINAL COPIES.???PierrePierre, I didn't say the Word was wrong,  I said that man has always been interpreting the Word wrongly. And so it is today, just as it has been all…[Read more]

That is the same as I see it Nick. Very unpopular stance, but truth just the same.Marlin

Wakeup,That Flesh is the Word,  not the bible, The WORD.Jesus said that my kingdom shall be built on true revelation and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.So a person could study the bible for a life time and still be lost.  Just like the Pharisee's and the Scribe's.Jesus also said, Unless you be born again by the Holy Ghost, you w…[Read more]

Pierre my friend,The difference is that you have learned yours by reading and studying the bible and other mans writings.  Even though the scriptures tell you not to.   PROVERBS 3:5 † Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.I have followed God's provided way.AMOS 3:7 † Surely the Lord GOD will do nothi…[Read more]