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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    MikeB,  Here is what Paul said about your intellectual understanding of scripture.II COR 5:19 † To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. And MikeB, I know you want to come back and say that the above really didn't mean what it…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    MikeB,Quote Isaiah 9:6For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.If you understood this scripture, you would understand who Jesus is.Marlin

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    MikeB, The simple question would be who raised Jesus from the Dead?For the answer to that is who spoke.Marlin

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    betweenchristendomandjws,And any others that believe this.You said a while back that healing is a thing of the past, raising the dead, died with the Apostles.Healing is only for those that believe, and raising the dead happened more then once in the 20th century.  Was it done in the dark, NO.  In fact one person was prophecy of months before it h…[Read more]

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    Nick,Quote Hi M,Natural birth has nothing to do with REBIRTH.Let us go back to the scripture again.JOHN 3:3 † Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.1. Jesus tells Nicodemus, that he must be born againJOHN 3:4 † Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be bor…[Read more]

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    Ed J,Quote Hi Nick,Water baptism symbolizes 'death' not “birth”!   …birth water is in the womb!    The two biblical births are:1. in the womb.   …………flesh birth            ……born of physical water2. The Word.      ………Spiritual re-birth       …..born of Spiritual water  This is correct, and I would add that being reborn of…[Read more]

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    Pierre, I gave you the option to respond or not. we were talking about this quote here.Quote Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water( repentance and humility) and the Spirit.(love God and do his will )And I gave you quotes and I tell you the truth, Your natural birth, the water breaks a…[Read more]

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    Nick, I am not sure what you are saying here.Quote Hi Marlin,You will not find any scriptural support for REBIRTH of water relating to natural birth.Was that what you meant?We follow Jesus into the JordanHe is not saying that we are born again of water.  He says we are born of water and we are. The water breaks and then we are born.He is also…[Read more]

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    Pierre, Quote Marlincan really the reborn in the flesh solve the problem in the spirit ??don't be like Nicodemus this is what he thought,we are born ones in the flesh this is done and so we die for our sins ,but Christ came to save us (our soul)the flesh his condemn ,and we have to become like children ,this bring us as a child not a reborn child…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Pierre, I didn't answer you because I didn't understand your question. I ask you to ask one question at a time. I think we are having trouble communicating, so please go slow.Marlin

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    Quote Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water( repentance and humility) and the Spirit.(love God and do his will )Pierre,  You have added bold above and that just isn't what it says or means.  That is just your interpretation.The 'born of water', speaks of the FLESH, a new born bab…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Pierre,  WOW,  I didn't see your name on there anywhere.That scripture points out those that will try to do it by there own wits.  Are you one of those?God has a provided way, find it and follow it.Marlin

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    II THESSALONIANS 2:11 † And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 † That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Marlin

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    MikeB,Quote They teach what the scriptures teach –He that believes like a denomination is of that denomination. The truth of the matter is that they, LIKE YOU, teach Jesus as a little god. And that is PAGAN… Marlin

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    Page 3Hi Mike,Quote So then Jesus lied when he told us to be his hands and feet?  He lied when he told us to preach the good news of the Kingdom to the ends of the earth?In your understanding, God and Jesus will draw who they want from heaven, and therefore there is no need for us to speak to anyone about God at all.Pierre, the JWs are doing…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote this is an interpretation of the believe that Christ was born an man ,but the wording says Christ was Created at the time of his conception,but God stopped creating on the earth after he finish and rested on the seventh day,so God lied ??why would John talk about Gods word (speaking) in John1;1WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT HIS SPOOKING…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike,Quote Did you know that “Peter” MEANS “rock”?  Do you know that Jesus is the one who gave Simon the name “Rock”?  Isn't it more likely that Jesus said “You are Rock, and upon this Rock I will build my church”?Are you Catholic?  That is what they teach, that Peter is the rock.  The man a little while later Jesus says to him 'Get behind me Sat…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote Do we all agree that John 1:1 speaks of TWO personsMike, that is your interpretation. JOHN 1:1 † In the beginning was the Word(LOGOS), and the Word(LOGOS) was with GOD, and the Word(LOGOS) was God. You can try as you might, but change it you can't.  My children hear my voice and another they will not follow.In the beginning there was only Go…[Read more]

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    Your right Nick,  He was conceived, but not by sex and He was neither of Mary or Joseph DNA….He was conceived by the WORD of God.Marlin

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic For Wakeup in the forum The Hot Seat 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote Spoken like a true Trinitarian – or one who would like us to believe that the Son OF God is the God he is the Son OF.  It is only people whose doctrines aren't taught in the scriptures that say it won't make any sense to us until God's Spirit shows it to us.I rest my case. And this is spoken by a person that wants to lean on his own…[Read more]

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