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    Quote Nick said, There was no demon in him and he had not sinned. He had no need to be washed for God's forgiveness and was filled with God's SpiritPSALM 51:5 †     Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.PSALM 58:3 †     The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.[Read more]

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    Quote I believe that the Son of God has been eternally existent, first within the Father and then begotten from the Father before the ages. That is what I feel the Lord showed me and that changed my life. I have yet to be shown that the Holy Spirit is a separate person but I am willing to be corrected. I, like you, believe that the Holy Spirit is…[Read more]

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    Quote Mary was truly his mother.Hi Nick,In this Nick we disagree.  I know was the 1st sin was and the flesh of man is fallen.  Jesus was the created blood cell of God.  This I know, for the Word says He came without SIN.  No flesh on this earth except Jesus could fulfill the law.But, my brother, you believe what has been showed to you.  We can…[Read more]

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    Quote Marlin,Jesus is not the Father. Jesus goes to great lengths to demonstrate that the Father is someone other than Himself. The Holy Spirit is not the Christ, the Son of God is the Christ.Matt 16:Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”Hi Kathi,You say that Jesus is not the Father,  I agree, Jesus was a human…[Read more]

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    Quote Hi Marlin,Heb 1:8 But of the Son He says,        “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER,        AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM.9“YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS;        THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU        WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS.”10And,        “YOU, LORD, IN TH…[Read more]

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    Quote The scripture does tell us that the Son laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands.Kathi, where does it say this?Quote Shalom Marlin,You weren't actually saying this?Hi Ed J,  No I wasn't, I was asking Kathi for the scripture where it says the SON did those things.  She hasn't responded yet.God B…[Read more]

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    Ed J, It wasn't my quote, but it was my question?Marlin

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    Kathi,The scripture does tell us that the Son laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands, so yes, the scriptures do tell us that the Son was there in the beginning.Where does it say the SON did this?God BlessMarlin

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    Kathi,Quote Why would you say that? You are a son, does that make you less human than your father?I believe God the Father begat the Son (who was always within Him before being begotten) who is called in scripture 'the begotten God' and this happened before the ages. I believe that the Father always had the potential to bring out the Son, His only…[Read more]

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    Cavedave,I certainly understand your frustration :(  :(  :(  :(  :( God BlessMarlin

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    Kathi,I don't mean to mix those words at all, I tried to make it as plain.  Maybe this will help. If you believe that Jesus was a spiritual being before He came to the earth, then you worship a little god.Too have eternal life, we were in God all the time and so was Jesus in God.  God spoke the Word,(LOGOS) forth.  The WORD is GOD.  That is the…[Read more]

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    Katti, Do I believe that Jesus is the 2nd person of the trinity (NO)… Do I believe that Jesus is a little god. (NO)…Neither of those are true, both false, both came from Satan and will return to him.Before there was anything at all, there was God.  God spoke and the WORD (LOGOS) came into being.  That Word is GOD and always was God and a…[Read more]

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    The fact of the mater is this,  We are saved by the Blood of God.  Not Jew or Gentile.  If Jesus had the blood or flesh of Joseph or Mary then He was fallen to begin with and could not be our savior. Jesus was a human man, just like us in every way, just as Adam was.  He was born to Mary, but He had the created blood of God in His veins.  He came…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 14 years ago

    Kerwin, you are right, the truth has always been the same, but man's perception of that truth has changed greatly.  Just like the church you were raised in, some truth, some lies.  That is the tree of knowledge of GOOD and EVIL.Each age was only responsible for what God gave them.  Almost all was lost during the dark ages.  Did the Lutheran chu…[Read more]

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 14 years ago

    Nick, Can the head say to the foot that it is not part of the body?Marlin

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    Ed J,That is one of the theories. Marlin

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 14 years ago

    Kerwin,Quote Your last sentence is cryptic.  The best interpretation I can put on it is to believe the Word of God for the hour we live.  That is true but does not aid me in understanding that Word.I am convinced that God promised us a new self created like him in true holiness and righteousness and that we like Abraham must believe that promise i…[Read more]

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    Hi Kathi,The first sin is a whole different can of worms.  I can say this, that in scripture Eve is said to be the mother of all living. Gen 3:20.  No where in scripture will you find that said of Adam.The Blood in Adam was the created blood of God.  Just as it was in Jesus.God BlessMarlin

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    Nick, I do believe you are right about water baptism. It represents death, burial, and resurrection to us. Born of water and Spirit.ThanksMarlin

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    Marlin1 replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 14 years ago

    Kerwin,  I believe in a new birth.  I believe it is an actual experience.  And I believe just like our first natural birth it is messy.  I believe that it will be a personal experience and no devil will be able to take it away.I don't believe that speaking in tongues is the evidence. Devils can speak in tongues too. I don't believe that sig…[Read more]

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