You didn't read anything I said or you just didn't understand.Maybe if you were to read what I wrote again.I do not have to protect God's written Word,  He reveals the truth of it to those such as can learn.My God is more then able to protect His own Word.Marlin

Mike we have already been through this, once.  There is no need to go over it again.You have your two gods and that is where you want to be.On this topic, we disagree.I won't go back, I came from there.  I know the truth and the truth has set me free.God Bless you in your search.Marlin

The trinity people like it because it seems to prove they are right.  Mike doesn't like it for it proves he is wrong.If you have the revelation of how the one God, (One Spirit). manifested Himself in three, (Father, Son, Holy Ghost).  Then this holds no problem for you, but if you want to make Jesus a little god, then you wouldn't like this s…[Read more]

Quote So are you implying then that the RCC is the beast that gives everyone the mark?  We are talking all men here, from all nations.It always seems to be the same, People don't understand HOW God will do it, so it must mean something different.I don't believe I was implying that.What I meant to imply was the RCC was the Beast out of the sea.…[Read more]

Quote Rev 17:9   And here is the mind which hath wisdom, The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits.Rev 17:10   And there are seven kings; five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.Journey42,Right here with the scriptures, you fall off the path.  v9 tells you if…[Read more]

I JOHN 2:23 †     Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.II JOHN 1:9»     9     †     Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. You can not have one wit…[Read more]

Not quite Mike,  The point I was making is they are ONE,  You can not have one without having the other.I JOHN 5:7 †     For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. You see it is the selfsame Spirit.Mike, I know what your response will be already.God BlessMarlin

If you are known by one you are known by the other.  For I and my Father are ONE.So just as I said, bad understanding or Paganism (if you believe they are two different Spirits)Hope this helpsMarlin

Georg,I believe you have this the closest.REV 17:9 †     And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. The original Pope was in the seven hilled city (Rome, Italy)II THES 2:4 †     Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sit…[Read more]

Quote IT IS WAY BETTER TO BE KNOWN BY GOD OR CHRIST BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT KNOWN TO EITHER OF THEM YOU SURELY DO NOT LIVE,Bad understanding at the BEST.Paganism at the WORST.God BlessMarlin

Kathi, there are many scriptures that show that your interpretation is flawed.  REV 5:6 †  And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 †     And he…[Read more]

Yes Nick, Jesus the Christ, Jesus the man had the Spirit of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. For it is the selfsame Spirit. The Spirit of God.Marlin

Quote Isaiah 54:5″For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth.  Kathi, You use this scripture to prove that Jesus is god the 2nd person.  Yet this scripture speaks of God not the son.  It very well could be speaking of the LOGOS, but that al…[Read more]

Quote The flesh body of Jesus is the temple where God the Son dwelt.  Jesus was the person that dwelt within the flesh body/temple.Kathi, my dear sister, again you stumble. In the beginning it was only one word that Satan told Eve and she believed it.  You do the same, you substitute Son for Father.  And in doing so, you make two Gods. PAGAN th…[Read more]

I thought this was interesting, How the Apostles Died.Apostles DeathMarlin

Kathi,  Quote Do you have a father who has a father? His father is considered your Grandfather. The Son gives eternal life.Sorry this analogy doesn't fit. Please show me one scripture where God is your Grandfather?So you have two fathers of which one is also a Son and the Son does every thing and the other father does nothing.Try as you might,…[Read more]

Quote The Son is the husband to the church and brings in the children whom He has given eternal life to…hence the Son is their everlasting Father.Now think long and Hard, you have Jesus doing NOTHING of Himself and at the same time you have Him as everlasting Father.  Now you have two that are named Father.  And one father only does what the o…[Read more]

Kathi, You read and understand not.  Jesus the man was created by God, for God.  For God became flesh and dwelt among us.  Reconciling the world to HIMSELF.Tell me Kathi,  Who is Isa 9:6 speaking of?ISAIAH 9:6 †     For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called…[Read more]

Amen Nick, That's what I mean. That is a work of the Spirit.

Quote The Holy Ghost sanctifies but does not clean up.Interesting Nick,Sanctify 2) to separate from profane things and dedicate to God, to consecrate3) to purifyNick, I might have misunderstood you. Do you believe that God will live in an unholy vessel. When He calls we answer, we are forgiven. (Many are Called), But we are still doing wrong…[Read more]