Nick writes:Hi,Faith is what connects us to God. Doubt damages that vital connection. I haven't found that doubt damages anything vital to my connection with my Creator. In fact, it draws me closer to him because I am in need of guidance and direction. I think Christians are afraid of doubting. They are taught to not doubt. They are taught…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2008,04:50)Hi Mandy, I have never claimed to know very much so keep searching.No, in your 22,000+ posts you have claimed to know quite a lot. You have even claimed to be a guiding post or a directional post of some kind. In other words, you see yourself as someone who points people in the right direction. I guess in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2008,04:49)Hi mandy, It is fine to question every aspect of everything. But doubts should not lead us to either attack God or His plan or his Christ. Such doubts are better not expressed till they are resolved by further time and study.  God is listening and watching.I haven't attacked God.I haven't attacked his plan…[Read more]

Nick writes:It was necessary to fulfill scripture that the Christ should die as a sacrifice for sin. Question:Where is the scripture that says the promised Messiah must die as a sacrifice for sin?

Kejonn,Sorry for misusing your thread here. I believe our conversation is over anyway. Nick will not guide me nor will he give me an answer for what he believes. He will only try to instill fear, accuse me of throwing a fit, and finally cast me aside as an antichrist.Nice.

Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 28 2008,00:14)Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 27 2008,00:26)Quote Of course, all will know the second time.  We know there must be a second time, because all will not know some other time.A second coming for the promised Messiah is a huge thing to assume (Of course, all will know the second time – you say).  David, it is not w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,19:36)Hi Mandy, Why do you expect it to be written in your terms?I'll take any terms that are in english.Can you show me?

Nick,Question: Where is it written that the promised Messiah would come twice?Begs the question: If it is not written, why do you believe it?

Hi Cato,Thank you for reassurance. Your thoughtful post has given me a few things to chew on today – thank you!The thing is, if the bible is so flawed (and it is), then how can we put our trust in Jesus? Clearly he does not match what God promised! And yet we believe he is the Messiah anyway – why? I want to believe it. I've believed it since…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,19:42)Hi Mandy, If you agree with the Pharisees that Jesus is not the Messiah are you going to join them in picking up stones to kill him? If you decide he lied and was not the true Messiah will you also begin to teach against him? Whom would that please?Nick,You know you have my respect as an older brother and…[Read more]

Be prepared in season and out of season to give a reason for why you believe……..Nick, why do you believe in the second coming of the promised Messiah when it is not written?

With all due respect Nick, I am not panicing nor am I throwing a tantrum. However I am desperate to please God. I'm so desperate that I keep asking the same question over and over again and no believing Christian has the answer! Very curious, indeed.God has not directed me to his Son. During this time of critical study I have not been directed…[Read more]

But Nick, I press in and ask………..are you blind?You must be if you are not able to point me in the right direction? Maybe the blind really do lead the blind here?My question is clear. My question is simple.You have no answer.Yes, Stu, the “second coming” in an invention made to cover-up the fact that Jesus did not fit the description in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2008,18:49)An unexpectedly meek Messiah with no political ambitions.Why was it so “unexpected”?HmmmmBy the way, the more you ignore my direct question, the more I am convinced that I have a valid point. A point that you are trying to evade. Anyone who follows this thread will see that you are doing quite a dance.

Nick,Can you see the “second coming”?If so, please tell me where I can find this information.You say, “What you cannot see….” but I dare say YOU cannot see it either because it is not written.You are always the one who tells us to stay with what is written, why are you now telling me to believe something that isn't?

Quote (Mandy @ Feb. 27 2008,16:39)God gave us a description of the coming Messiah in the OT. Why doesn't Jesus match that description?Nick,I'll give it one more try…..care to answer the question for real this time?

Hi Nick,I cannot see what at this stage of my searching? I cannot see your answer to my one and only question, that is for sure! Of course knowledge is nothing. But that doesn't keep us from asking, “Why?” and expecting a logical answer.

Quote Of course, all will know the second time. We know there must be a second time, because all will not know some other time.A second coming for the promised Messiah is a huge thing to assume (Of course, all will know the second time – you say). David, it is not written!Quote ISAIAH 8:14-15“And he must become as a sacred place; but as a s…[Read more]

I'm not sure what you want from me here, David?What is the question exactly? Yes, I've heard and read all the scriptures you listed. I see how you are drawing your conclusions.

Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2008,16:47)Quote The Messiah was to accomplish all the first time around. While it doesn't say he would come twice, nor does it say the above. The fact that you “gave up” on Isaiah 53 makes me wonder.I don't know how else the OT could put it – it says that when the Messiah comes the lion will rest with the lamb. It says…[Read more]