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[KangarooJack]

Gene,

I see you are still at it. You still don’t know truth.

[KangarooJack]

t8 said:

Like most die-hard Trinitarians, you will grasp at anything that remotely supports your triple personality God view. In this case, you choose a translation that is not like any other and say this is the one that gets it right compared to the rest. And your only evidence is wait for it….it agrees with the Trinity Doctrine the most.

It agrees with context. See my post above. Your solution adds another “Lord” when Paul had just said that for us there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.

Paul: For us there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ.

t8: For me there is one God the Father and two Lords the Father and Jesus Christ.

[KangarooJack]

ED J said:

Hi KangarooJack (A.K.A. The Thinker),

1a) Wrong: the Greek “kurios” (lord) is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew “Adonai” (lord)
WE have had this conversation before – so I ask you to please refrain from promoting ‘error’

b) Wrong again: God’s name transliterates into English as YHVH (ancient Hebrew NEVER had a “W” sound)

Adonai was a substitute name of YHWH. Oops!

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[KangarooJack]

 ^Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.”
Then an angel from heaven appeared to Him and strengthened Him.…

Who gave Jesus the cup to drink? Clue is in the above verse which says “Yet not My will, but Yours be done”.

It amazes me how many times Trinitarians get their butts kicked here and come back for more. Eventually they leave, but after some years you missed these defeats and have come back for more it seems. Do you want more humiliating defeats KJ. That is in your future if you continue to peddle a gospel and doctrine that is not of the Kingdom and not of Christ. The light will expose your teachings for what they are.

 

t8,

First, you have just added a second “Lord” after Paul had just said that there is only one Lord. You can’t even be consistent. For you he term “one God” in 8:6 means one God. But the term “one Lord” allows for more than one. Paul said that for us there is one God and one Lord. But for you there is one God and two Lords.

Second, Why do you go out of context? The cup of the Lord in 1 Corinthians 10 is “the communion of the body of Christ.” Yet you go out of context. That’s not exegesis my friend. Exegesis is line upon line! Furthermore, Paul had just warned them to not tempt Christ as they tempted him and were destroyed by serpents. Deuteronomy 6:16 says that it was YHWH they tempted.

Try again and this time exegete the passage. Don’t just yank some verse out of its context and superimpose it on Paul’s text.

 

Paul: For us there is one God and one Lord.

t8: For me there is one God and two Lords.

[KangarooJack]

t8 said:

If you get this from one translation and a suspicious one at that, then it appears that you are getting desperate KJ.

The Aramaic Bible has it right t8. 1 Corinthians 8:6 which you say denies Christ’s deity says that there is “one Lord Jesus Christ.” This means that every time you see the word “Lord” after 8:6 it MUST BE Jesus Christ or else Paul contradicts himself. But Paul was consistent. In chapter 10 he applied Psalm 24:1 to Christ which is about YHWH. Note that “the Lord” is Christ throughout the context and it means “YHWH” because of Paul’s application of Psalm 24:1 to him. Therefore, the Aramaic Bible translation stands unrefuted.

 ²¹ You cannot drink the cup of the Lord (Christ) and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s (Christ) table and of the table of demons. ²² Or do we provoke the Lord (Christ) to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?³ All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. ²⁴ Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.

²⁵ Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake; ²⁶ for “the earth is the Lord’s (Christ), and all its fullness.”

 

[KangarooJack]

t8 said:

Biblical teaching no1. ‘There is one God the Father’.

Aramaic Bible: To us, ours is one God The Father…and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah….

Oops! t8 overlooked that the Greek “kurios” (lord) is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew YHWH.

[KangarooJack]

Kathi,

Good response to t8 though I do not fully agree. You have two problems.

1. If the Father of Jesus is a father to him in the sense you say, then the Father MUST also have a father. Who would that be Kathi?
2. David was “begotten” by the Father. It says, “This day I have begotten you.” David was not the Father’s offspring “within” him. And Jonah was “begotten” by the great fish when the fish vomited him out. Jonah was not the fish’s offspring.

   Jack 🙂

[KangarooJack]

T8 said:

True Jael. Men did worship Jesus, but as the son of God.

Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

There is no difference. The son of someone is ontologically the same as his father.

Son of Man = Man (ontologically)

Son of God = God (ontologically)

Trinitarians are confused. Worship alone does not make something God.

Same old worn out argument.  You are confused. Those in the boat committed idolatry according to the Decalogue if Jesus was not God.

Will you ever be able to come up with a slam dunk argument?

[KangarooJack]

Gene,

Nick is a troll. He has always been a troll. He is not interested in engaging you from the scriptures. He wants only to troll.

[KangarooJack]

Why do you keep dodging Nick? Was Jesus conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of a virgin, or not? Then I will answer questions from you.

[KangarooJack]

Nick, That tradition started with the three magi. Do you indict them too?

[KangarooJack]

I am trying to get you to look closely at your confession Nick. You already know that I confess that Jesus is a man. But you refuse to confess certain particulars of him which are as equally important. Why?

[KangarooJack]

He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of a virgin. It is never a good idea to resist the Holy Spirit’s teachings. You may enjoy it now, but in the end it will not pay off.

[KangarooJack]

Nick, It says MORE than that. It says that he was conceived of the Holy Spirit and of a VIRGIN woman. This is omitted in your confession.

[KangarooJack]

Your confession falls far short of the testimony of scripture Nick.

[KangarooJack]

Nick Hassan said:

Jesus was conceived like every other man.

Jesus was NOT conceived like every other man. Other men are NOT conceived by the Holy Spirit and of a virgin woman. read the scriptures.

[KangarooJack]

Amen dl!

[KangarooJack]

I see that Nick is still as sassy as ever lol.

[KangarooJack]

Quote (journey42 @ April 25 2014,23:48)

The abomination of desolation has not been set up yet/

Jesus told His disciples that THEY would see the abomination of desolation stand where it ought not. Did you get that? Jesus told them that THEY would see it. This puts the fulfillment in THEIR generation.

[KangarooJack]

Exodus 24:9-11:

9 Then Moses went up, also Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, 10 and they saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, and it was like the very heavens in its clarity. 11 But on the nobles of the children of Israel He did not lay His hand. So they saw God, and they ate and drank.

God CLEARLY manifested Himself in human form. He layed His hand on some of them, sapphire stone was under God's feet, and He ate and drank with them.

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