JustAskin said:Quote When the President's representative carries out and act on the part of the President do you not understand that that representative is only acting WITHIN the authority of the President.If an issue arises that is NOT within the remit of that representative then that representative has to consult back to the President.JA,See my…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 24 2010,20:12)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 19 2010,04:10)The English word “over” is the same Greek word “epi” in both verses. * The Father is “over (epi) all.” * Christ is “over (epi) all.”Therefore, God and Christ are EQUAL in authority. thinkerHi TT,Thinker's logic is amazing.Major premise: Pharaoh was over all Egypt.Minor…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,08:46)hi TT, So two are have authority, one being given it by the other. Of course it is the one who gives that is greter than the recipient Why would you be interested in trying to prove you have two equal gods anyway if you are a trinitarian?Anti-trinitarians have two Saviors, two Shepherds and two Testators.…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Feb. 25 2010,02:25)#”The more you try to strike me down, the more powerful I become… “# Star Wars: Paraphrased – Obi-wan Kinobi to Darth Vader.Even the baseless arguments from WJ and TT present opportunities for stengthening my belief in my One God and my One Lord.JA,I am still waiting for you to answer my post on page 83.…[Read more]

Mikeboll said to WJ:Quote I have heard the “making himself equal to God” argument before, but it doesn't hold up.Mike,The statement that Jesus was “making Himself equal with God” is the apostle John's comment. If John's assessment was in error then we cannot trust his narrative at all. Right?Mike:Quote And when the disciples worshipped him in the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,14:12)Hi TT,No He is not but He is the God of Jesus and his brothers.God gave him all authority and Jersus passed on some of that authority to his followers.God is the head of Christ and Christ is the head of the church. Funny how some folk get them all mixed upNo Nick,Jesus passed some of His authority to His…[Read more]

FROM THE TESTATOR THREAD:Marty said:Quote But God gave everything that he created to Jesus, he said:13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive…[Read more]

FROM THE TESTATOR THREAD:Marty said:Quote But God gave everything that he created to Jesus, he said:13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 23 2010,10:04)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2010,08:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:10)Hi TT, You stumble over your own shoelaces.Nick,Disprove that Jesus Christ was Israel's testator:16In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17because a will is in force only when somebody has…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2010,10:17)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 23 2010,08:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:10)Hi TT, You stumble over your own shoelaces.Nick,Disprove that Jesus Christ was Israel's testator:16In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17because a will is in force only when somebody has…[Read more]

JA said:Quote I don't know how you come about to claim that I am saying that Jesus is God.JA,You are correct that you did not say the exact words that Jesus is “God representatively.” But those words should be imputed to you because what you said amounts to the same thing. You said that He is “God's representative” which means that he is “God repre…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Feb. 18 2010,14:22)no marty, tt believes that his god came up from where he was, taught about his father's kingdom, then when his god died, went back to his father's kingdom kicked him out, took over everything and left his father out to dry. does this sound like a good son?Huh what?Show where I said or implied any of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:53)Hi TT, So that does not mean that God was encased in flesh but that Jesus, the son of God was conceived of Mary by God's Spirit. Mary was no surrogate but really his mother.You know that your depiction of trinitarianism is a caricature and a misrepresentation. God desires truthfulness from the “inwards part…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:10)Hi TT, You stumble over your own shoelaces.Nick,Disprove that Jesus Christ was Israel's testator:16In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. NIVDo you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:11)Hi TT, ERGO means therefore? So you want us to say Jesus is his own father??Hey Nick,I was not clear on that one. I meant to say that they are equal in authority.You got me on that one.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,07:10)Hi TT, OK so it means Jesus was a man. Then he was not God as our God is not a man.He was the Word who “BECAME flesh.” You know what John says about the Word (John 1:1-3).thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 23 2010,07:08)HMMM!Where is JA? Is he hiding now? WJWJ,What has JA to say? He admitted that Jesus Christ is God “representatively.” This means that Jesus is owed the same homage as if He was God Himself for He acts in the place of God.What I enjoy about debating with anti-trinitarians is that is so easy to show up…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,06:56)Hi TT, What does that mean??Don't be coy Nick.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2010,06:57)Hi TT, THEREFORE leads you down many false trails. You tell us by your logic that Jesus is his own father?Then it should not be difficult for you to disprove me.thinker

Jodi Lee said:Quote The mind of Adam was the serpent in the garden. He created the deceit, and then Eve chose to eat of it and then Adam ate of it as well. The mind of Adam thought of the deceit, and both Adam and Eve believed it to be true, trusting in the carnal mind over God.Jodi Lee,I have run into this nonsense before on another discussion…[Read more]