Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2010,02:33)Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 24 2010,06:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2010,18:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,21:14)Wow!  That is all I can say is wow.  Maybe I expect too much sometimes from pastors.Please!Maybe I expect to much from parishioners! Get off of your high horse dear!I h…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,11:04)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 24 2010,10:43)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,10:29)Hi TT, Quotes pleaseActs 2:34-37 (New King James Version)34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:      ‘ The LORD said to my Lord,      “ Sit at My right hand,       35 Till I make Your enemies Your f…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,10:29)Hi TT, Quotes pleaseActs 2:34-37 (New King James Version)34 “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself:      ‘ The LORD said to my Lord,      “ Sit at My right hand,       35 Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”’36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that Go…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,10:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,18:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,17:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,17:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,15:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,14:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,10:10)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 24 2010,10:01)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,09:45)Hi TT, So when God announced His Son at the jordan He was not being entirely accurate?When God said that we are sons he was not being accurate? Distinguish the difference being declared a son and actually being adopted as a son.…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote Sonship is not an office!David was anointed and then appointed as firstborn son (king, Psalm 89:20,27). Jesus was anointed as son. The Jews were called “sons of God” because they were rulers and administrators of the covenant (John 10). Your assertion that sonship is not an office has no basis in fact.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,09:45)Hi TT, So when God announced His Son at the jordan He was not being entirely accurate?When God said that we are sons he was not being accurate? Distinguish the difference being declared a son and actually being adopted as a son. distinguish between being declared the Son of God and actually being begotten as…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Jesus the Son of God laid the foundation of the earth but he was not declared to be a Son until after the incarnation.Keith,At His birth the angel said that he “SHALL BE” called the Son of God. The first time He was actually called the Son of God was when He was anointed by the Spirit at the Jordan. So His…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,08:57)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 23 2010,16:45)Kathi said:Quote The “hand” is the Son:“Hand” signifies “power.” It is the “power” of the Son which is meant in Hebrews 1:10.thinkerCertainly the hand was the Son's but the power was God's.Jer 32:17-2217 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote The “hand” is the Son:“Hand” signifies “power.” It is the “power” of the Son which is meant in Hebrews 1:10.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2010,08:11)Hi TT, God proclaimed him as His son at the Jordan. We should believe Him.Nick,God proclaimed us his adopted sons though we are not adopted yet. Proclaiming and being adopted are two different things. So proclaiming and being begotten are two different things.thinker

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2010,06:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 23 2010,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,13:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,01:39)Hi LU, Jesus was never the God of the Jews. He said the Father was. But you do not believe him?Whom do you follow?Nick,Jesus was not the God of the Jews all by Himself. He, as the Son, was…[Read more]

Mike,This is my third post today in reply to your last post. I want to say first that I apologize for my bad manners yesterday. I had reached a high level of frustration. You had asked me where the Bible says that David was God's firstborn son. You had asked this AFTER acknowledging that God had appointed David as His “firstborn” (Psalm 89:27).…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2010,17:56)Hi thinker, Sorry to doulble post, but I just thought of one more person who thought Jesus was the Son of God while on earth.Quote Matthew 27:54 NIV When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote He never appointed David the firstborn son of the earth position.  I'm guessing that would go to Adam, Abraham or Moses before it went to David.Mike,Your “firstborn son of the earth” explanation in reference to David is hogwash! It was a matter of his being appointed firstborn son to Jehovah's throne.20 I have found My servant…[Read more]

thethinker said:Quote First, David was anointed to be king and afterwards appointed as king (firstborn). Was this not prophetic of Christ? How could Christ be anointed as not also be appointed as king (firstborn) like His father David? Mike replied:Quote Are Jesus and David equal?  They are two different people with two different sets of…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote Was Jesus ever said to be APPOINTED firstborn of all creation?Mike,First, David was anointed to be king and afterwards appointed as king (firstborn). Was this not prophetic of Christ? How could Christ be anointed and not also be appointed as king (firstborn) like His father David?Second, I have already shown you from Colossians 1…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote I started thinking last night that based on that statement from Paul, maybe you're right.  But it didn't make sense to me because a person begins to exist only when he is begotten or created, unless he is God.  And if Jesus was God, he would have “taken the form of” God's Son as he “took the form of” a servant.  He can't be pr…[Read more]

Nick,Your last two posts above are not worthy of a reply. Again, thanks for helping me expose Jodi Lee's nonsense.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2010,07:46)Hi TT, Do you not long to get beyond trivail wars of words and to come into the kingdom too?Jesus revealed WHO our God is and the door is still open.Drop your other gods at the door.Jesus revealed to us that he loves us and you deny it.thinker