Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 27 2010,10:06)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 27 2010,09:40)pok said:Quote Mar 12:32  And the scribe said to him, `Well, Teacher, in truth thou hast spoken that there is one God, and there is none other but HeYou forget that they were referring to the shema inwhich the word for “God” was “Elohim” which is PLURAL. Why…[Read more]

WJ said to terraricca:Quote If Jesus being the Son of God was common then what was the big deal about the demons screaming out calling him the Son of God and Peter’s divine revelation of him being the Son of God.Keith,EXCELLENT POINT! If all Jews were sons of God in the sense that Jesus was then why didn't the demons call out their names too? A…[Read more]

Worshippingjesus said:Quote “This is most troubling for Anti-Trinitarians since the word yachid, the main Hebrew word for solitary oneness, is never used in reference to God. Click here for a detailed look at this fascinating word study”.  SourceWJ,It is DOUBLE trouble for the anti-trinitarians. Moses chose the word “echad” which often indicated…[Read more]

pok said:Quote Mar 12:32  And the scribe said to him, `Well, Teacher, in truth thou hast spoken that there is one God, and there is none other but HeYou forget that they were referring to the shema inwhich the word for “God” was “Elohim” which is PLURAL. Why didn't Moses choose a singular word for God?Moses said, “Hear O Israel, the Lord your Elohi…[Read more]

pok said:Quote Does the wind make sound Thinker? How could we possibly image what Eden was like? This was pure spiritual.The narrative says that they heard the sound of “the Lord God” WALKING in the garden.pok:Quote How can you proclaim Jacob wrestled with god then throw out the command that came afterwards?It was MOSES who proclaimed that Jacob…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 27 2010,06:18)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 27 2010,05:29)Marty said to WJ:Quote Of course, he is not just any man but the Son of the living God, but you said it and the scriptures confirm it, he is a man.Marty,You speak as if God and man are totally other. Don't forget that man is in the image of God. So for God to become a…[Read more]

Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 27 2010,05:59)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 27 2010,05:29)Marty said to WJ:Quote Of course, he is not just any man but the Son of the living God, but you said it and the scriptures confirm it, he is a man.Marty,You speak as if God and man are totally other. Don't forget that man is in the image of God. So for God to…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Nick:Quote That is not what the scritpures say, they say Jesus has the Spirit without measure! But guess what, the Father has the Spirit without measure also!thinker

Marty said to WJ:Quote Of course, he is not just any man but the Son of the living God, but you said it and the scriptures confirm it, he is a man.Marty,You speak as if God and man are totally other. Don't forget that man is in the image of God. So for God to become a man is not a problem. He took human form several times in the old testament.thinker

Mike said:Quote I thank God for you.  Not just for giving me a reason to delve even deeper into Scripture, but because I haven't read one of your posts without laughing out loudYou have quite an entertaining imagination yourself.Mike:Quote The ONLY reason it is so important to you when Jesus was begotten is that if he was the begotten Son of God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2010,15:04)Hi Thinker, This is all new to me and I don't have the strength right now to read up on it.  Let's delay this one for now, please.I will say though, on the surface it sounds like although they believed in pre-existence, they didn't consider someone begotten until he appeared in the physical world.  In other w…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote When Paul quotes 2 Samuel 7, the Greek has “will be”, not “will become”.  It doesn't matter how the NWT or any other translation puts it – it is “will be”.  And I stand by my assumption that Paul is only quoting Scripture word for word, not thinking to change the tense because all he is interested in is proving that the man Jesus r…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Mar. 25 2010,10:51)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2010,10:46)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2010,09:07)Quote (martian @ Mar. 24 2010,10:17)Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 24 2010,22:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2010,18:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,21:14)Wow!  That is all I can say is wow.  Maybe I expect too m…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 25 2010,09:07)Quote (martian @ Mar. 24 2010,10:17)Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 24 2010,22:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 24 2010,18:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,21:14)Wow!  That is all I can say is wow.  Maybe I expect too much sometimes from pastors.Please!Maybe I expect to much from parishioners! G…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll64:Quote Why do you defend the NWT that was translated by a bunch of no names that could not read a single Hebrew or Greek sentence?Keith,The NWT translators proved themselves to be “no names” because their translation teaches an “incoherent polythiesm” (Wikipedia). Mikeboll would agree that we are prohibited serve…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll64:Quote Why do you defend the NWT that was translated by a bunch of no names that could not read a single Hebrew or Greek sentence? “A bunch of no names.” thinker

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 24 2010,14:18)Hi Thinker,I don't get it.  Are you saying the Greeks thought that people existed in some other form before they were born?peace and love,mikeMike,What is the sub-title of this thread? Did I not CLEARLY say that I want you to show me from Hebrew thought that “begotten” means “to come into being?” I expected…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote Jesus was God's Son before he sent him in the likeness of man.Mike,First, this still does not prove Jesus was created. The word “begotten” does not mean created. The word “begotten” is the Greek “gennao.” The word “create” is the Greek “ktizo.” The scripture no where says that Jesus was created (ktizo).That which is “begotten”…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote Why did you use a different translation after making a point to tell me it actually says:See my answer at the end of my previous post above.Mike:Quote I suspect it is because, whether you think the “again” applies to the second coming or the exaltation, it is clear the Jesus was the “Firstborn” both times he was in the world.Do you…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote About David:  God didn't call him His firstborn son.Mike,How many times do I need to refer you back to Psalm 89?26 He will call out to me, 'You are my Father,       my God, the Rock my Savior.' 27 I will also appoint him MY firstborn,       the most exalted of the kings of the earth. David calls out to Jehovah, “You are MY Fat…[Read more]