JustAskin said to WJ:Quote Seeing that you claim I am speaking falsely against you – Please provide your proof or evidence that I have spoken falsely…JustAskinJA,What world are you living in? The burden of proof is on the accuser. Does your deistic god approve of your speaking  witness against a man without proof?thinker

WorshippingJesus said to Mike:Quote Why should I have to rebuke Jack for something you perceived he said? I know Jack did not mean what you thought he meant. Maybe he could have worded it a little better, but it is obvious Jack did not mean to say that Jesus was greater than the Father.Keith,Forgive me for posting here. I want to direct you to my…[Read more]

Worshippingjesus said to Mike:Quote Read your passage in its context Mike…”THAT WAS THE TRUE LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew him not”.  He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become…[Read more]

Mike copied and pasted my statement below to Nick as “proof” that I said that Christ is superior to the Father:Quote But God Himself could not love the way Jesus did. The greatest love is to lay down one's own life for another which you say God cannot do. Ergo, Jesus did not show the love of God “perfectly.” The love of Jesus SURPASSED God's…[Read more]

Mike said:Quote Hi Thinker,Online Bible Study Tools has “kurios” in Jude 5.  It says:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance , though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.JUpomnh'sai {V-AAN} de; {CONJ} uJma'? {P-2AP} bouvlomai, {V-PNI-1S} eijdovta?…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote I have purposefully gone through every applicable verse and explained , extrapolated, verbosed, clarified, concorded, the meaning of each – and you say “Well done for being able to copy and paste”No sir! You avoided my points. Your post was incoherent. Jesus is called the “heir of all things.”“God, who at various times and in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2010,07:19)Quote (thethinker @ May 04 2010,01:53)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2010,13:37)HI TT, IS GOD UNDER ANY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? WHICH LAWS DO YOU APPLY TO HIM, AND BY WHOSE AUTHORITY??Nick,I have explained this before. God made a covenant to Christ (Galatians 3:17) and a covenant is binding. God cannot renig on His…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 04 2010,05:42)TT,Galatians: 3:20: King James BibleQuote Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.When God made the covenant between himself and Abraham he needed no mediator. He does not Mediator between parties (I believe you are arguing this with Mikeb).But Jesus is the Mediator between God and Man. God does…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 04 2010,03:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2010,21:48)Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)Therefore, Jesus was the Messenger of Jehovah who appeared to Moses in the burning bush, who claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (3:6) and who Moses said appeared to Him (4:1) and who saved the people out of Egypt…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 02 2010,20:45)Keith,See, I address you personally, by your name.Not before have I heard such complete unwravelling and profound explication of a single Scripturally turgid rendered verse (except: 'the Father, son and Holy Spirit' which has been universally condemned as trini falasy) from one proclaim with such God inspired…[Read more]

Mike,I will get to you next week. I am getting ready to go on a trip and have a lot of things to do. I can only do quickie posts on the threads. In the Truth or Tradition forum I answered your question on the reading “Jesus” in Jude 5.Don't you ever take a break? thinker

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 03 2010,05:41)Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)The earliest manuscripts we have say that it was Jesus who saved the people out of Egypt:5Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. Jude 5 ESV (Critical…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2010,13:37)HI TT, IS GOD UNDER ANY LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? WHICH LAWS DO YOU APPLY TO HIM, AND BY WHOSE AUTHORITY??Nick,I have explained this before. God made a covenant to Christ (Galatians 3:17) and a covenant is binding. God cannot renig on His word because He is righteous.The scriptures are replete with statements which…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 03 2010,13:02)TT,Can I ask you these two q's;- What was Pharoah's firstborn doing while Joseph – a not-firstborn was ruling instead of him?- what does an able Spirited King do while his heir rules in his place?Genuine inquisitive questions, no trickery.You keep implying that I am saying that Jesus is FORCED to hand back the…[Read more]

JustAskion said:Quote First off, the kingdom that Jesus is ruling over is his Father's kingdom. That is why he hands it back to his Father after he has reconciled it.JA, Please answer the folowing scriptures:4 My reason is that certain men have slipped in who have long ago been appointed by the Scriptures to this judgment, ungodly men, turning the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2010,20:51)Hi TT, When does the firstborn inherit such rights? Has your God died?Only the prodigal son dared to demand such rights prematurely.Nick,So you deny that the kingdom is Christ's firstborn RIGHT? And you deny that He PURCHASED the kingdom with His own blood?Come on Nick! Come right out with your denial and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2010,13:48)Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)Therefore, Jesus was the Messenger of Jehovah who appeared to Moses in the burning bush, who claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (3:6) and who Moses said appeared to Him (4:1) and who saved the people out of Egypt (Jude 5).Hi Thinker,How do you reconcile your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2010,13:48)Quote (thethinker @ May 02 2010,12:04)Therefore, Jesus was the Messenger of Jehovah who appeared to Moses in the burning bush, who claimed to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (3:6) and who Moses said appeared to Him (4:1) and who saved the people out of Egypt (Jude 5).Hi Thinker,How do you reconcile your…[Read more]

Mertian said:Quote Thinker has made a point of stating that Elohiym is plural indicating the three persons of the Trinity.To ALL:There Martian goes again misrepresenting things. I have never said that the word elohim indicates the trinity. I said that it indicates a “plural unity” in God. I said that the new testament proves the trinity.I don't…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote What does verse 44, also say: 'I am Pharoah, and without your consent no man may lift his hand nor his foot in all the land of Egypt'How does this relate to God and Jesus? Well, what is 'Egypt' an analogy for? Is it not 'the Kingdom of God'? Can any man enter, set hand or foot, 'lift hand or foot', in the Kingdom of God except…[Read more]