Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 25 2010,04:34)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 24 2010,11:47)David said:Quote Frankly, who cares what the later versions of the Septuagint did?  Don't we care with what was originally written?  We know God's name originally occurred in the Hebrew scriptures almost 7000 times.  Who cares if a Bible translation today re…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 25 2010,01:52)Quote (david @ May 24 2010,00:37)Quote I been trying to really refer to scriptures about the throne the holy spirit.  and just like you have said, Holy spirit doesnt need one, its in you.God never meant for man kind to be seperated from himself.The whole point is for God to be your everything,and that…[Read more]

David said:Quote Frankly, who cares what the later versions of the Septuagint did?  Don't we care with what was originally written?  We know God's name originally occurred in the Hebrew scriptures almost 7000 times.  Who cares if a Bible translation today removes it and replaces it with “lord”?  What proof is that?David,Do you care that the ins…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to David:Quote David I do not see where there is an attack on you.I attacked your implication for the verse as proof that the Holy Spirit is not a person because you have used that verse to support your theory.You sure are defensive these days and touchy I might add!WJKeith,David is touchy because his arguments are weak. btw,…[Read more]

BumpAttn: DavidDavid said:Quote For he must rule as king until has put all enemies under his feet.Hi David,First, tell your JW buddy Mikeboll that Jesus “rules” as King just as you said. Mike says that Jesus “waits” and does not reign. Second, You speak only a half truth. The apostle Paul ALSO said that Christ Himself will bring His enemies into…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker……….I will deal with it , GOD is the ONLY TRUE LORD, but there are many God's and Lords. Anyone should understand that.Gene,You just buried yourself dude! Jude 4 says that Jesus is our “only Master and Lord“. Are you saying that His Father is a “true” Lord but Jesus is a false Lord? Deuteronomy 6:4 says that God is…[Read more]

David,So what's your point? The word “LORD” in capitals translates into Greek as “kurios” or “Lord” (lower case). The Greek Septuagint uses “kurios” in Deuteronomy 6:46:4 και ταυτα τα δικαιωματα και τα κριματα οσα ενετειλατο κυριος τοις υιοις ισραηλ εν τη ερημω εξελθοντων αυτων εκ γης αιγυπτου ακουε ισραηλ κυριος ο θεος ημων κυριος εις εστινSee…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 22 2010,13:11)Remember your 50+ scholars that wrote the CEV?  Their footnote at Judges 13:22, where they put the word “angel”,  says,angel:The Hebrew text has “god”, which can be used of God or of other supernatural beings.–Mike.WJ, DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST.  (Reverse psychology.)David,But to which of the angels did the Fa…[Read more]

Quote (heaven @ May 23 2010,10:00)My guess is all server errors should go away. I think that sometimes a page gave that error because of the tracking ability that required a check or reminder via email that a topic was updated. Because the emails are working, my guess is that the server errors after posting will go away too.I hope so anyway.Hey…[Read more]

David said:Quote For he must rule as king until has put all enemies under his feet.Hi David,First, tell your JW buddy Mikeboll that Jesus “rules” as King just as you said. Mike says that Jesus “waits” and does not reign. Second, You speak only a half truth. The apostle Paul ALSO said that Christ Himself will bring His enemies into subjection.20…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 22 2010,00:41)KJ…………”THE LORD SAID UNTO MY LORD, SIT AT MY RIGHT UNTIL (I) MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL”. Now who is the Lord you are talking about, which one/, or is it both?  I have to agree with JA and say, “get a grip man” < now that was true humor. Gene,We have been over this a thousand times. David…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2010,15:41)Hi Jack,You know what I think?  I think you've stalled and avoided moving on to the “right hand” issue until you could come up with an “excuse” to bail out for good.   That's okay, I'll just bring it up in a new topic.  So what have we both learned from our extremely long debate on “begotten” and “all cr…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote I use the term blaspheming only to mean “Speaking against one who utters Spiritual truth”We're not interested in how you use the term “blasphemy”. We are interested only in the biblical use of the term. Only God can be blasphemed. Jesus and the Holy Spirit were blasphemed. Therefore, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God.Blasphemy…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote Please can someone show me where Jesus is being called “Master” here. Ok, so other renderings say it – but then there is a mexican stand off (an Empasse, to you KJ) because who is to say that one rendering is more correct than the other – except … what of it – I scarcely can contain myself over what KJ is straining himself…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 21 2010,03:49)KJ: Old Wine in New Skin…I think you are straining at a gnat over  this one…I ask again: Where does Scripture say that Jesus is blasphemed – I am JUST ASKIN for the Scripture verse – not arguing…Your original question was this:Quote Can you show me where one is condemned for blaspheming against Jesus –My…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 21 2010,03:08)Thnker……….Kangaroo Jack? well that is fitting for you, Jumping around all over the place dodging direct questions. Still love you brother……………………….geneGene,WJ predicted your comment. I noticed that you did not reply to my OP. Deuteronomy 6:4 says that God is “Lord ALONE.” Jude 4…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 21 2010,03:16)Hi Maze and welcome!Quote (Mayz @ May 20 2010,02:45)So if you believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are working together in perfect harmony to accomplish the goal of saving humanity, then you believe in the trinity.Exactly!WJI concur. Yet Nick says that the Trinity cannot save WJ.Jack

JA said:Quote Can you show me where one is condemned for blaspheming against Jesus – Not saying you are wrong or 'ought – just wanna understand what you on abart?JA,Blasphemy against the Son may be forgiven. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit may not be forgiven. If the Son was not God, then how can He be blasphemed? If the Holy Spirit is not God,…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote Further, Jesus NEVER declares that He is God.TO ALL:The Father who JA says is his God declares that Jesus is God.8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath…[Read more]