Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2010,06:24)Hi KJ, Do you really think folk fear your pathetic mockery?We serve an awesome God.Nick,Those who deny Jesus are the real mockers here.Jack

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 27 2010,03:57)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,11:53)Worshippingjesus said:Quote For instance Jesus said “whosever WILL follow him let him “DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP HIS CROSS” and follow him” Mk 8:34-38Keith,Jesus' statement was meant to show man's inability. No man has ever been able to keep this principle…[Read more]

Worshippingjesus said:Quote For instance Jesus said “whosever WILL follow him let him “DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP HIS CROSS” and follow him” Mk 8:34-38Keith,Jesus' statement was meant to show man's inability. No man has ever been able to keep this principle perfectly. No man has or can deny himself in the way Jesus required. This is why He had to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 26 2010,17:19)Quote But she takes away from the fact Jesus also came on His own initiative. –Kangaroooo Jackhttps://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….t=3128;”Also, I have not come of my own initiative, but he that sent me is real. . . .” (John 7:28)“Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, b…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote And that begs the question, does a bridegroom ever ask another species to be married?t8,You are ignoring what you want to ignore. In the old testament the Husband was God. Jesus is our Husband. Ergo….Jack

Quote (t8 @ May 26 2010,08:49)Kurioshe to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lordthe possessor and disposer of a thingthe owner; one who has control of the person, the masterin the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperoris a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote We are the same kind as him. He calls us 'brother'. So if he is God, then are we? Rather, he is the son of God and we are the sons of God.We are in the same family as him, he is our brother.This understanding needs to be espoused when you venture into 'ontology'.Christ is our brother by adoption. He was not adopted. So what's your…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote Did you not know that Lord and YHWH are not the same word?The name YHWH translates into the New testament as “Kurios” (or Lord). ALWAYS!Jack

t8 said:Quote It appears from scripture that we can partake in divine nature and it is not a stretch to believe that Jesus has divine nature, (he existed in the form of God after all). But that is completely different to saying that he is God or THE Divine.t8,The divine nature is not the same as the divine form. We may partake of the divine…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 24 2010,16:22)These words in Hebrews 1:10,11 also apply to Jesus, for he acted as Jehovah’s Agent in creating the universe. The Son is the one through whom God performed the creative works there described by the psalmist. (Colossians 1:15,16; Proverbs 8:22, 27-30.) So Jesus, too, could be said to have “laid the foundations of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,06:20)Quote (JustAskin @ May 25 2010,14:01)SF,Yeh Man, di I an I bredrin hail from di farda lan', yu no see it?Wha di man haffi sey bout da? A cool ting ar wha?Is a intanashinal farum wi a deal wid in ya.(Don't understand – try reading it with an accent!)JAI understand it clearly, it is like most of what you…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 26 2010,07:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,07:39)Because everyone here including yourself believes he knows the truth.It is written that there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. You believe that there is one God the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.I at least believe what Paul wrote and he said for US there is…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote I don't understand – to what advantage is it that you are enying that God calls ALL his sentient creation “Sons”JA,So God calls ALL His sentient creation His sons?How about Hebrews which says this,To which of the angels did He ever say, “You are my son”.KJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 26 2010,07:39)Quote (t8 @ May 25 2010,15:29)Quote (JustAskin @ May 13 2010,01:43)Keith,Perhaps you are right.Tell you what, you stop posting inconsistent and erronous arguments and we will stop the 'ad hominems'.If you believe in the Trinity doctrine, then post with that as your base.If some question arises that…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 26 2010,06:29)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,06:08)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 26 2010,05:48)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,03:21)David:Quote You know, the angels are also called “sons” of God.Angels are not called sons of God anywhere in the Bible. You are probably referring to Genesis 6 where it says that the…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ May 26 2010,05:53)Hi Jack,And also who are the “Princes” (Son of the King) of whom ONE HAS FALLEN, in Psalm 82?JustAskin.Hi JA,Asaph was speaking about the rulers of the people. Jesus applied it to the Jews of His day (John 10). There is no place in scripture where angels are called sons of God.Jack

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 26 2010,05:48)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 26 2010,03:21)David:Quote You know, the angels are also called “sons” of God.Angels are not called sons of God anywhere in the Bible. You are probably referring to Genesis 6 where it says that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men. The “sons of God” were of the…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Dec. 24 2009,03:30)I think that in SOME places where the ANGEL of the LORD is mentioned..it MAY actually have been JESUS since he is said to be the WORD of GOD…but its purely speculation on my part and it takes an exercise in exegesis for me to come to those conclusions…   Greetings dk,It is no speculation. Moses said…[Read more]

Quote (david @ May 25 2010,12:31)Quote Keith,David is touchy because his arguments are weak.btw, Has David answered the point that Jesus used the personal pronoun “ekeinos” in reference to the Spirit when He said “He (ekeinos) shall testify of Me” (John 14:26)?I don't quite remember where that point was brought up.–ThinkerYes, I have.  But I…[Read more]

Mikeboll said to WJ:Quote Where is the scripture that says all three are one?Keith,It would not do any good. Jesus says that “I and the Father are one” and Mike denies it in the way Jesus meant it. Jesus was speaking in reference to His keeping His sheep in cooperation with His Father. Yet Mike denies that the Father and the Son do all things as…[Read more]