KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19 authentic or not? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
WorshippingJesus said to Mike:Quote You say it is my million word post, but my post is in answer to all your points!Keith,I recall Mike whining many times that you don't answer his points. And when you answer his points he whines that you ware too wordy.Ask him if he wants a little cheese with his whine.Jack
KangarooJack replied to the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2010,15:42)Quote (Lightenup @ May 31 2010,23:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2010,23:09)Hi Kathi,That sounded so good….for a minute. Then I remembered that God created light through Jesus, right? Isn't light one of the “all things in existence”? Good night Kathi. I will pray for understanding and for the ri…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 31 2010,16:22)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 31 2010,00:14)Quote (t8 @ May 31 2010,13:07)Hey at least he changed his name from the thinker (which didn't suit) to something more accurate. After all, he does jump around quite a bit trying to dodge difficulties.I don't see it that way. Jack is an anomaly in this forum – he…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2010,15:39)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 31 2010,16:11)Quote (t8 @ May 31 2010,13:05)Let me say that a first-born is literally a first-born and has certain privileges as a result.David was described as a “first born” (ps 89) and yet he was the literal last born of Jesse. There goes that theory….Hi AllThe view of some is…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
WorshippingJesus quoted:Quote The Greek term πρωτότοκος (prwtotokos) could refer either to first in order of time, such as a first born child, or it could refer to one who is preeminent in rank.WJ,Your information is absolutely correct. Furthermore, one who was not born first in time but was “appointed” the firstborn was treated as if He was the…[Read more]
KangarooJack started the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Mikeboll said:Quote They also believe that the phrase “prototokos pasa ktisis” does not really mean “firstborn of every creature” even though the Greek words mean exactly that. They argue that “firstborn” really means “preeminence” and “of every creature” really means “just mankind”, therefore when Paul called Jesus the “firstborn of all…[Read more]
KangarooJack started the topic Protokos in colossians 1:15 means preeminent in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Mikeboll said:Quote They also believe that the phrase “prototokos pasa ktisis” does not really mean “firstborn of every creature” even though the Greek words mean exactly that. They argue that “firstborn” really means “preeminence” and “of every creature” really means “just mankind”, therefore when Paul called Jesus the “firstborn of all…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Trinitarians scholars are mistaken in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Mikeboll said:Quote I argue that based on his views, in the 4th century Greek language, “begotten” really meant “begotten” and “firstborn of all creation” really meant “firstborn of all creation”.Mike,Thank you my man! Note that part of your statement I bolded. You said that begotten really meant begotten in “4th century language”.TO ALL:Who cares…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Jesus was sent. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Kangaroo Jack said:Quote Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of His divine perogatives. He made Himself a servant. He was God in the form of a servant. It's not hard to understand JA. Is. 1:18 replied:Quote You are correct. Glad you knocked that straw man down (again). It's…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Jesus was sent. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 30 2010,07:59)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 30 2010,03:39)JustAskin said:Quote Here is a question for the Wise:When Jesus 'Emptied' himself of Divinity and became man in the flesh, was he still 'God'(Trinity wise)?Jesus did not and indeed could not empty Himself of His divinity. He emptied Himself of the free exercise of…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic The glory of the builder in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,08:06)Hi KJ, Indeed all the prophets should have been honored as they represented God but they too were killed.Lk20So you're saying that Moses is to be honored “just as” the Father is honored? Why is it then that Jesus is to receive more glory than Moses?Hebrews 3:1-6:1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19–what does it prove? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,08:06)Hi KJ, Indeed all the prophets should have been honored as they represented God but they too were killed.Lk20So you're saying that Moses is to be honored “just as” the Father is honored? Why is it then that Jesus is to receive more glory than Moses?Hebrews 3:1-6:1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19–what does it prove? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 30 2010,08:00)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ May 29 2010,15:48)Quote (JustAskin @ May 30 2010,07:39)KJ,WJ,When you read that your belief is the abomination spoken of in the Scriptures, do you not feel a little queasy?JA,Then Jesus also spoke an abomination for He said,22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19–what does it prove? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ May 30 2010,07:53)This is excellent stuff. Both KJ and WJ are drowning in their own deceit.JA,Do you honor the Son “just as” you honor the Father? Answer plainly PLEASE! Jesus said that if you don't honor Him “just as” you honor the Father then you do not honor the Father Himself.Answer plainly.Kangaroo Jack
KangarooJack replied to the topic Satan is in the lake of fire in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,07:23)Hi KJ, The fact he is called serpent of old does not make him no longer present. Think again.Nick,Are you really saying that the actual snake that was instrumental in deceiving Eve is still present? Tell me what zoo the serpent is in so I can go see for myself.The binding of satan was connected with the…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19–what does it prove? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ May 30 2010,07:39)KJ,WJ,When you read that your belief is the abomination spoken of in the Scriptures, do you not feel a little queasy?JA,Then Jesus also spoke an abomination for He said,22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19 authentic or not? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,07:15)Hi KJ, Do you think we all swallow the rationalisations you develop to preserve your babylonian dogma?We have a teacher thanks.Nick,Jesus explicitly said that His Father commanded Him what TO SPEAK,49 For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,06:57)Hi KJ, You are an appointed teacher? then why do you not teach the truth of the Word?Nick,King David is the teacher. He said that Messiah was his “Adonay” (God).Let the Messiah be your God too!KJ
KangarooJack replied to the topic Satan is in the lake of fire in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,07:06)Hi KJ, The devil was a liar from the beginning.How does this relate to your odd doctrine?Nick,Does it not plainly say that it was the ANCIENT serpent that is bound? The word “ancient” clearly indicates that it is the serpent/satan of history past who is in view. Therefore, your doctrine that satan's binding…[Read more]
KangarooJack replied to the topic Matthew 28:19–what does it prove? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 15 years, 9 months ago
Gene said:Quote JA……..EXACTLY, and (THE) LIE is that JESUS is A GOD.Gene,Then Mikeboll is the liar. He says that Jesus is “a god”. WJ and I say He is God.Kangaroo Jack
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