Quote (JustAskin @ June 17 2010,18:19)Please can Mike and KJ remember that the focus and source of our Salvation is through the Testsment of Jesus Christ, through the Scriptures, not Eusebius and what he may or may not have said!AMEN!KJ

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,13:46)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,13:28)In the end Eusebius retracted his views anyway.Hi Jack,What views did he retract?   mikeHave you been reading the Protokos thread? Eusebius submitted his creed to the Council which said that Jesus was “begotten of the Father before all the ages.” The Council omitted…[Read more]

Mikeboll said:Quote Seriously Jack, do you think that it always must mean “alone”?See our debate. I also said that “monogenes” may also mean “only” or “one of a kind.”  I see now that I have relied too heavily on the example from Psalm 25:16 like you rely too heavily on Eusebius.You just want to have the last word all the time. You won't say to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,11:24)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 16 2010,04:44)Paul,I offered Mike one example of the Septuagint's use of “monogenes” in Psalm 25:16 where it simply means “alone.” But Mike expects us to accept his sources over the 70 Jewish scholars which Jesus and the apostles quoted 67% of the time.JackAnd as I answered you…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,11:59)KJ, I have learnt preterist ideas, I will be looking more into this,2nd Peter 3 says your both scoffers lol. I have to go.k,Read 2 Peter again carefully. It says that the “scoffers” are those who deny Christ will come. I don't deny that He was to come. I assert that He came. He promised His disciples that some…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,11:49)KJ and Ed,   soon the Lord will return, soon the earth and all ungodliness will be destroyed, after the Tribulation which will come in the Middle east and spread to the whole world.  They who follow the beast.  It could be.. they worship Allah who has made 'himself' to be God, and all who do not worship the be…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2010,09:51)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,05:36)ED J said:Quote Apparently you haven't done your homework thoroughly enough!  Strong's Greek # 758ἄρχων archón: chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.Once again the AKJV has Rev.1:5 translated correctly!ED J,Strong indicates that “archon” is from # 757 which means “to b…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 17 2010,06:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 17 2010,05:44)To All,Can I ask what it is that is in dispute here?Excuse me if I seem to be failing to understand – but is it not perfectly obvious what is being spoken of here:”In fulfillment of his own purpose he gave us birth by the word of truth, so that we would become a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,07:48)Hi KJ, No your word sideshows are just attention seeking for you and a distraction for real studentsYour recent posts today on “Satan is in the Lake of Fire” show who is and who is not the real student. “Spiritual timing” indeed.KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,07:49)Hi KJ, What does scripture say? How does scripture look at time? It is never according to dictionaries and logicSo you do deny a literal thousand years then?KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,07:33)Hi KJ, Did you think the kingdom ended?No the kingdom of God is forever and ever.King Jesus just hands back that kingdom to God.The kingdom of Christ is forever and everLuke 1:33:“And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,07:32)Hi KJ, Yes you have no sense of spiritual timing.Your presumptions about dates do not fit with conmmonsense or realityYou're right about that. I have no idea what “spiritual” timing is? Does this mean that the 1,000 years in Revelation 20 is also “spiritual”?You are not a very good apologist for the futurist…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2010,06:16)Hi KJ, Messiah the prince is spoken of among the princes in Daniel.He is the appointed as 'David'king of Israel, even king of kings.His God has given him authority and he later gives it backThe scriptures are replete with statements that indicate that Christ's kingdom is forever and ever. Back to the drawing…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2010,10:38)Hi KJ,You do a good Don Quixote attacking windmills everywhere.Focus on important matters not battling people.It is necessary to point out bias and preferential treatment don't you think?KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 16 2010,11:34)Hi KJ, You have made your intellect your god and the words you write are relevant only to maintaining your divinity. We do not serve your god nor join in the misuse of scripture needed to support him.Your empty can replies seem to be your god. Jesus said that the judgment upon the prince of this world was…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,06:38)KJ,i sure will pm you.but the thing is ya need to agree on a topic, or ill make one up. ya's choice, this can be a trinity debate or a scripture debate.SF,Mike can choose the topic to show that I am not “scared.” After he wore me out with his filibustering he then beats his chest about it. I don't care…[Read more]

TO ALL:We have all seen Nick like a LP broken record replay over and over the words “God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself” (2 Corinthians 5:19). Nick INFERS from this statement that Christ is not God though the statement even as Nick reads it says no such thing.Anyway, I discovered today that the correct reading should be this:“God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 17 2010,05:44)Quote (JustAskin @ June 16 2010,13:39)To All,Can I ask what it is that is in dispute here?Excuse me if I seem to be failing to understand – but is it not perfectly obvious what is being spoken of here:”In fulfillment of his own purpose he gave us birth by the word of truth, so that we would become a…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,14:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 16 2010,14:27)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 15 2010,19:23)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 15 2010,19:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2010,13:44)He's just scared, Dennison.  It's okay.  He ran away once, so he definitely doesn't want to be locked in a cage with me again.      Mike,Was Davi…[Read more]

Mikebolll said:Quote So you didn't find the first to third person wording that Jesus used very similar to someone else?I didn't bother look for it because I expect you to indicate the page# and which post down from the page. When you say, “see my reply on Echad” you should give page number or link to the page. I had thought you were speaking about…[Read more]