sf,I discovered Mike's notification that we will be debating on the Protokos thread.KJ

Mikeboll said:Quote Why don't you stop avoiding the issue and just answer my DIRECT question DIRECTLY?First, because I am not in the habit of taking fragmented quotes and drawing conclusions. That's YOUR method Mike. I gave you a quote from Eusebius which indicated that he “could have” thought that “all creation” meant all mankind. You're just…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 21 2010,10:40)Quote Jesus is at the right hand (vs. 3) and is called “God” by the Father Himself (vs. 8)I'd just like to point out that not all Bibles translate it that way:Example:“About the Son, however, God said: “Your kingdom, O God,will last forever! You will rule over your people with justice.”-TODAY'S ENGLISH VERSION.A…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2010,13:26)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 22 2010,05:24)Quote (t8 @ June 19 2010,21:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,12:15)Seriously, I honestly just wish they would answer the points I make once in a while.When people do not answer, it is often because they cannot. Be encouraged by that because if they were true, they…[Read more]

sf said:Quote I revised his opening statments according to the CF formant, since mike statement didnt meet those requierments, I told him to revise it.Then you send it back and telling us what to do. Then we revise it ourselves. How do I know you did not revise the content at all?KJ

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 22 2010,19:38)KJ,By the way you know very well that i even asked you, what is going on, are we doing this my way (the guidelines that i presented) or your way, (the guides you presented)  I Asked for clrafication, and to prepare your case. Is the resolve even clear? Do you at least willing to debate the resolve?or is…[Read more]

SF,Your pm said that Mike accepted my offer by a pm. I did not receive a pm from Mike. You asked if I wanted to do the debate your way. I have already indicated the format on page 10https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….7;st=90Did Mike send his opening statement to a mediator first?I explicitly said on page 18 that all details were to be discussed…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 22 2010,19:00)Fair enough! Mike you need to agree to the rules of engagement first. You've jumped the gun.SF jumped the gun too. I thought he was a debate judge?KJ

sf,I received your pm that Mike has sent you his opening statement. I was totally left in the dark about it. We were supposed to discuss word length and all rules first. On page 18 of this thread I explicitly told Mike:Quote Do you want to have a structured debate that has a definitive end or not? If so, then pick the topic so we can determine…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 19 2010,21:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2010,12:15)Seriously, I honestly just wish they would answer the points I make once in a while.When people do not answer, it is often because they cannot. Be encouraged by that because if they were true, they would show you the truth that would set you straight. But if they have nothing,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2010,10:52)Hi Is1.18, You mock while espousing a god not found in scripture?Not found in Scripture? What Bible are you reading?KJ

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 21 2010,16:37)THis should be in the debate forum.sf,Mike knows that he is not able to take on WJ by himself. Mike is getting more obnoxious with every day.the Roo

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 22 2010,02:14)Hi Allt8 has placed himself in opposition to the cream of Greek Scholarship.And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us insight to know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. “This one is the true God and eternal life. 1 John 5:20 NETThe NET Bible is a…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote So if you want the last verse to say, Jesus Christ is the true God and eternal life. Then you also have to say “we are in Jesus Christ who is true–even in his Son Jesus Christ.AMEN! This is exactly what the text says!It is assumed that the definite article functions as the personal pronoun “him.” But the article may just as a…[Read more]

DUPLICATE:TO ALL:My posts above to Mike are my final word on the history of our debate and what was answered and what not and what was said and what not. This all goes to show that it is better to engage in a scructured debate.So I will allow Mike the final word – again. From this point on I just want Mike to say yeah or nay to my offer to have a…[Read more]

TO ALL:My posts above to Mike are my final word on the history of our debate and what was answered and what not and what was said and what not. This all goes to show that it is better to engage in a scructured debate.So I will allow Mike the final word – again. From this point on I just want Mike to say yeah or nay to my offer to have a structured…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2010,14:50)1 John 5:20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.Look at the verse closely.The son of God came to give us understanding of who?His Father (God). A…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2010,14:40)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 20 2010,04:43)Jesus did not exclude Himself when He addressed His Father as the one true God. If He had excluded Himself, then why did John later call Jesus the “True God and Eternal life?Look again.John 17:3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2010,10:26)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 20 2010,10:08)Paul,How can Mike's psychological disorder “kick in” when it is never at a stop?And I've even got the one you ducked for all those months in our debate for you, Roo.   Show me scripturally or secularly when being at someone's right hand EVER meant you were equal to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2010,11:16)Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 20 2010,11:08)I've answered this. More than once.You have NEVER DIRECTLY answered this question.  You said he could have meant he was preeminent over creation.  That is not the question though, is it?Do you think he meant Jesus was preeminent over MANKIND by his statement?Do you all s…[Read more]