SF,Mike used a mocking emoticon in his rebuttal. Please ask him not to do it again.Thanks,KJ

Mikeboll said to WorshippingJesus:Quote Wrong, because it proves what I have said all along that you cannot say “Monogenes” is proof Jesus had a beginning.Exactly! So why does Mike still argue that “monogenes” means that Christ had a beginning?          the Roo

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2010,11:18)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 09 2010,11:01)Hey Mike,Once in a while you show a sincere interest in truth. According to the TWOT the word “yalad” when written in different forms means different things. The Hiphil form indicates actual paternity. But the Qal form simply indicates a relationship of love.”Thus Ps.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 10 2010,01:31)Quote (barley @ July 04 2010,09:29)Because they had earlier manuscripts that did not contain those words.  I personally am comfortable with the idea that those words were added later by some “well intentioned, but erroneous and presumptous scribe”.This is wrong!Every extant manuscript has the…[Read more]

WJ said to Mike:Quote Jack has been over this time and time again with you, and you have got to be the most stubborn man alive to keep pushing this issue without scriptural proof.Keith,Mike knows he has lost the argument scripturally. Jack

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote Did Jesus hear the Father say “Thou art my son” before he was supposedly born from the Father?Excellent point Keith! The problem is that Mike does like common sense interpretation. The TWOT says that the Qal form of “yalad” in Ps. 2:7 simply refers to a relationship of love without reference to actual pat…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2010,10:42)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 09 2010,04:40)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote It’s the same word used for the “begetting” of the saints which already exist…For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have “begotten (gennaō)” you through t…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 08 2010,14:28)Hey Mike,”it will be…”you getting in the swing now.Take the 'Roo' by the tail and 'Swing it'And 'Roo'; “Stay on the Mike, Stay on the Mike” (let him who has wisdom understand!)WJ and I have reduced you to a funny man. You were once a serious student of scripture.   KJ

Quote (terraricca @ July 09 2010,09:51)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 09 2010,02:59)terraricca said:Quote and “the kingdom in you “only means that if you become a true worshiper of God then you have picked your kingdom, no??because if not ,why are we changing our self to be approved to be able to live in that kingdom of God and so become citizens of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 09 2010,09:10)Quote (Lightenup @ July 07 2010,23:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 07 2010,14:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2010,23:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 07 2010,01:55)Sure if you believe the Father has a womb and that is what the prophetic psalm is saying.Hi WJ,You and Jack get so hung up on this stuff.…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 09 2010,09:02)Hi Mike:”A spirit womb”?  Really?  I can't believe to what extreme people have to go in order to maintain their doctrine.Love in Christ,MartyHey Marty,We agree on this one man! the Roo

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote It’s the same word used for the “begetting” of the saints which already exist…For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have “begotten (gennaō)” you through the gospel. 1 Cor 4:15Keith,Absolutely! The words “gennao” and “ginomai” quite o…[Read more]

terraricca said:Quote and “the kingdom in you “only means that if you become a true worshiper of God then you have picked your kingdom, no??because if not ,why are we changing our self to be approved to be able to live in that kingdom of God and so become citizens of it.NO! The “kingdom of God within you” means that Christ reigns in your heart.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 08 2010,15:35)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 08 2010,07:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2010,16:14)Quote (terraricca @ July 05 2010,16:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2010,13:57)Hi T,Good refresher.  I thought maybe you had some personal insight why Manasseh was allowed to rule so long.  mikemikewhy is this world still in o…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 08 2010,11:40)S'truth,It is for good reason that the phrase “Too much learning has dulled the mind”Do you guys really need to go to such length to 'prove' from external sources – that COULD BE EQUALLY FLAWED what is a very basic and simple concept.Yes, Human Kind. Very simple – very easy.Which sinned that it should need…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 08 2010,10:30)KJ,You Choke…Honor is not Worship.Worship is not Honor alone.I'm not going through this. It's been done before. Amnesia… Try it with someone else who has no Wisdom.Don't answer me.JA,Read my posts and the scriptures again. Verse 13 says “honor” but verse 15 says “worship.” The Father and the Lamb were both…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 08 2010,10:01)KJ,Jesus is not Worshipped.Honor, Praise and Glorify both the Son and the Father, Worship the Father only.You know full well that the word is “obesience” – not Worship.We have  done all this time and time over but you take every opportunity to re-present false rendering.If Jesus had been “Worshipped” the Jews…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 08 2010,10:01)KJ,Jesus is not Worshipped.Honor, Praise and Glorify both the Son and the Father, Worship the Father only.You know full well that the word is “obesience” – not Worship.We have  done all this time and time over but you take every opportunity to re-present false rendering.If Jesus had been “Worshipped” the Jews…[Read more]

“It seems clear enough that the Great Commission of Mark's Gospel has reference to the human race alone. There is the familiar story of St. Francis of Assisi preaching to the birds, but I doubt if it is really the intent of the original that the Gospel is to be preached to animals as well as to man, commanding them all alike to believe and be…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 08 2010,09:48)Good grief, eight pages of meta-debate. I think the christian god loves this sort of bickering between his sycophants.  Well done!This thread has been more entertaining than the actual debate appears to be.  Just goes to show you what a dumbing-down you get when you introduce Judeo-christian mythology.Stuart KJ