JustAskin said:Quote The proliferation of nutty ideas and false leads creates fantastic ideas that help gainsayers refute gospel.So you believe that angels had sex with human women and had “giant” children and then say that my views are “nutty”?    Do angels have penises? Where are the fossilized remains of this “giant” race? KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,09:19)Hi KJ,Really?Or once agin do your dogmas drive your derivations?Nick,Where do you see the word “angels” used in Genesis 6 or in Job?KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,07:32)Hi KJ, Myths and legends?Nick,Exactly! Angels having sex with women is “myths” just as you say.KJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2010,07:56)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 20 2010,15:11)Mike's revision of history shows that he has lost the argument on the scripture front. So he must find what he thinks is “company” among the fathers. Kathi is now doing the same thing. She allowed Mike to bring her down to his category. I was totally floored…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2010,05:14)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 21 2010,03:05)JustAskin said;Quote Why would he be against the line of Seth, who was held as wholly, taking women as wives (Having sexual intercourse) and having children by them when that was His command.JA,God was not against the line of Seth. He was against their marrying the…[Read more]

WJ said:Quote All doesn't mean all.“All” means what Mike wants it to mean when he wants it to mean it.WJ:Quote Jesus is god but not my god but someones god.  WJ:Quote Jesus had a begining before the ages but yet he was born on a specific day before time.Yeah and Mike is a history revisionist and now he's got poor Kathi revising history too. The…[Read more]

JustAskin said;Quote Why would he be against the line of Seth, who was held as wholly, taking women as wives (Having sexual intercourse) and having children by them when that was His command.JA,God was not against the line of Seth. He was against their marrying the daughters of Cain because Christ was ordained to come through a pure line.The sons…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote Try Genesis 6:2 & 4.And what of Job 1:6, 2:1.JA,The “sons of God” in the verses you give were the godly line of Seth. Genesis 6 says that they married women and had children. Can spirit beings have sex with women?When they sinned by their unholy marriage God said, “My Spirit shall not always strive with MAN.” So the sons of…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 20 2010,21:20)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 20 2010,13:01)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:17)wow this plural debate is going lol so far.sf,What do you mean the debate is going lol so far? Mike and I are workin our butts off making our arguments. We're not insulting each other or engaging in the nonsense like…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote I don't have to prove it.Jesus own words speak for themselves!You are asserting that “All” means less.Prove it!WJKeith,Mike is really a piece of work isn't he? He says that “all” means “all” in Colossians 1:15. But in verse 23 the word “all” is an “exaggeration.” Now he is suggesting that “all” in reference…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 19 2010,12:17)wow this plural debate is going lol so far.sf,What do you mean the debate is going lol so far? Mike and I are workin our butts off making our arguments. We're not insulting each other or engaging in the nonsense like before. It is the other debates that is a three ring circus.I have gotten a couple of…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote trinitarians: the son was begotten of God before the ages and thus, the same nature as God.  They say that He was generated from the eternal God.They believed that Jesus was eternally generated kind of like the sun when it generates rays. The rays of the sun have existed as long as the sun itself. I don't agree but am just trying…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote ALL SENTIENT CREATIONS of God are “SONS” of God.Chapter and verse please! My Bible says that God never called an angel His son (Heb. 1). “To which of the angels did he ever say, 'You are My son.' “? Therefore, not all sentient beings are sons of God. Back it up or s___ up!KJ

REBUTTAL# 6:Mike said:Quote Jack has not been able to provide a scripture that says Jesus “SPOKE all things into existence” because there isn't one.  I had hoped he would just admit that…..but that hope has disappeared.  Instead, he brings up “necessary inference”.Reply:Okay, I have been patient with Mike long enough. I have asked him at least t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2010,14:00)Save that one for the debate Roo.  You'll need something to fall back on.   mikeYou stuck your nose in first Mike. I was originally talking to sf.Roo

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2010,04:23)     Is that ambassador the SAME man as the man who sent him?  Is he the same being?  Can a being send itself?Jack, I had hoped and prayed that you would receive the mounting evidence that supports the Hebrew use of a plural of grandiosities in scripture and maybe think, “Hey, if I was mislead about this, may…[Read more]

Martin R. Vincent D.D. on the word “Today” in Hebrews 1:5Quote First quotation from Ps. ii 7. The Psalm is addressed as a congratulatory ode to a king of Judah, delcaring his coming triumph over the surrounding nations, and calling on them to render homage to the God of Israel. The king is called Son of Jahveh, and is said to be “begotten” on the…[Read more]

Kathi cited Calvin who said:Quote This expression, to be begotten, does not therefore imply that he then began to be the Son of God, but that his being so was then made manifest to the world.Kathi,Note that Calvin said that the expression “to be begotten DOES NOT THEREFORE IMPLY that He began to be the Son of God.”So we know that Calvin did NOT…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 18 2010,17:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2010,05:58)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ July 16 2010,21:09)You means Jehovahs Messenger, Can you not deliver your own personal message?can you not be your own messenger?curiousNo Dennison, you CAN'T be your own messenger.One never says, “I sent myself to deliver a message for…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ July 18 2010,09:21)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 17 2010,11:02)Friends,Preterism is the view that ALL biblical prophecy has been fulfilled including Christ's second coming in ad70. We are in the new heaven and earth (i.e., the eternal new covenant age).Futurist Christians have been saying for 2,000 years that Christ is coming “soon.”…[Read more]