Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 23 2013,21:53)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2013,11:47)why would anyone give up his rights to communicate ,and share God's truth that may come directly to him through the spirit of truth ,and give that away to an men organization and so lose direct contact with God and his son Jesus Christ ;this would be a big lost ;Terra.You…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 22 2013,10:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2013,10:03)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 20 2013,17:46)No, Mike, I have already discussed all of this with you.  The Apostle Paul was looking back at the ministry of Jesus while he was here on earth, and so, yes, it is looking back at this, but saying, “who existing in the form of God…” in…[Read more]

Wakeup said:Quote Did you not say that the tranfiguration was Jesus coming into his kingdom.Or have I misunderstood you?I did NOT say that the transfiguration was Christ's coming in His kingdom.Quote You claim that the second coming is in 70ad.and no one could see him.I said that a special vision was needed in order to see Him. Jesus told His…[Read more]

Wakeup said:Quote This is a pathetic answer. John said that he was their “companion” in “the tribulation.” John was banished to Patmos for the same tribulation the seven churches were suffering.It does not say the tribes of the land in my scripture.We can not discus the scriptures when the wording can be changed at will.I gave you Young's LITERAL…[Read more]

Wakeup said:Quote KangarooJack.I have to disagree.This is the Truth or Tradition thread. It appears as if you prefer tradition.Quote HOW MANY SECOND COMINGS ARE THERE? TWO/THREE?Matthew 24:29   **Immediately after the tribulation** of those days shall **the sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall…[Read more]

Wakeup wrote:Quote Please note: Matthew 16:28   Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall *not taste of death*, till they see the Son of man*coming *in* his kingdom*.Visiting his kingdom.*Not* coming in clouds and **every eye shall see**.**Not coming before he is resurrected***Not coming before he is crucified**.Jesus came…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 12 2013,17:53)Kangaroo Jack.Matthew 16:28   Verily I say unto you, **There be some standing here**, which shall not taste of death, till they *see* the Son of man *coming in his kingdom*.JESUS HAD TO BE TRANSFIGURED TO COME IN HIS KINGDOM,AND SPEAK TO MOSES AND ELIJAH.THEY WERE THE THREE,JAMES JOHN AND HIS BROTHERSAW THE…[Read more]

Wake up wrote:Quote Kangeroo jack.Thats a good question,but you should know by the scriptures that Christ has not returned yet.Because 40 years later John was shown in revelation the coming of Christ *in future*. And *every eye* shall see him coming in the clouds,and them also who *pireced him*(the jews).rev.1:7.The Greek does NOT support the idea…[Read more]

There is NO pre-trib rapture because the tribulation is NOT future. The seven churches in Asia went through the tribulation and they were NOT raptured. It's as simple as that.9 I, John, who also your brother, and fellow-partner in the tribulation, and in the reign and endurance, of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, because of…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 28 2013,14:34)Can you please give me this scripture so I can look at it in its context.Jesus told Caiaphas and his associates that THEY would see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of power AND coming in the clouds of heaven (Matthew 26:64).He told His disciples that some of THEM would not taste death til they see the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2013,13:13)Quote (palal @ June 17 2013,08:01)A interesting lecture on our debate: http://www.gracechurch.org/media….of_hellPalali do not read religion writings ,they are always bias cutting God out from you and replace it by their own views and opinionsYour posts are religious writings too.

Hi J 42,Your post is too long. Expect no detailed reply from me. Those days are gone. I am 61 years old now and I don't have it in me. I only wanted to show you that great men have held to the doctrine that Christ has returned. They were/are not crack pots.I will leave you with this. Jesus told His disciples that THEY would see His return. Was…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ Nov. 30 2012,13:54)Can we also add to the false doctrines list;- Jesus has already returned, so no need to look out for him.So by your standards Eusebius was a crackpot. He said that Christ returned. He was considered as an “extremely well learned Christian of his time.”  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EusebiusHe wrote:Quote “But…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 26 2013,10:58)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 25 2013,12:32)The Word made the human body in the same way the device made the vessel.No Kerwin. The word was nothing but a word.  God is who made the human body.No Mike! It is the word “Logos” which in Hellenist thought denoted the Supreme Being. John was writing to Hellenists.

Quote (david @ Aug. 27 2013,08:24)How all trinity threads work on this board:Page 1.  Discuss actual specific topic Page 2-infinity.  Free for all.Hi David!  

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2013,03:04)Jammin…………..Was John so stupid , that if he wanted us to believe the WORD was JESUS , he couldn't just have written Jesus' name there? Why do you have to force the text to say what in fact it does not say, do you people know more then The Apostle John did, so you can freely just change the text to…[Read more]

Think in terms of kind.1 man + 1 woman = 1 Adam.This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.God called their (plural) name (sing) Adam (sing).God is a single kind.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2013,09:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2013,19:19)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,17:33)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 20 2013,02:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,15:08)So TWO gods, then?  One of whom was WITH the other?You won't get a straight answer here Mike, but the answer is clearly yes.If the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2013,21:21)Oh right. 1+1=1″If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.”1 Executive branch + 1 Legislative branch + 1 Judicial branch = 1 Government.It doesn't take a degree in rocket science.

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,11:15)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 15 2013,21:05)It seems you have trouble accepting that “The Word” was GOD.Yes I have trouble believing that John 1:1c says the Word was THE God.Even many Trinitarian scholars admit that it can only be rendered qualitatively.But I guess if the Word can be THE God, the Judas can be THE Devil who is…[Read more]