Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,10:09)Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,17:55)I believe all that but I also believe that scriptures support the Son being the firstborn over all creation and that firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.KathiAmbiguous, for the term “firstborn” in relation to Jesus simply means he has the preeminence…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,10:09)Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,17:55)I believe all that but I also believe that scriptures support the Son being the firstborn over all creation and that firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.KathiAmbiguous, for the term “firstborn” in relation to Jesus simply means he has the preeminence…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,09:52)Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2010,17:38)Well,I see it where He was begotten as the Son of God before the ages, begotten as the Son of God as a man in Mary, begotten from the dead at the resurrection.KathiYet we know he existed when he was begotten as the Son of God from Mary, we also know he existed when…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2010,08:13)Roo,You are the volcano of love.  The fruit of the spirit just leaks from your pores…hmmm My Jesus is the true Son of God.  God of God.  I have never spoken about God having sex with a goddess like Greek mythology, nor has Mike.You condem not only me but many of the early Christians that place the be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2010,07:20)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 20 2010,15:11)WJ said:Quote All doesn't mean all.“All” means what Mike wants it to mean when he wants it to mean it.WJ:Quote Jesus is god but not my god but someones god.  WJ:Quote Jesus had a begining before the ages but yet he was born on a specific day before time.Yeah and Mike…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2010,03:51)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 26 2010,10:40)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote Do you see the highlighted parts Mike? This is proof that the word “Begotten, gennaō” does not always mean “to be born”!It’s the same word used for the “begetting” of the saints which already exist…For though ye have t…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2010,03:28)WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote The facts are that a literal begetting when spoken of being born is it takes a “Male and Female” and Sons are not born as FULL GROWN sons as you infer Jesus was, are they? So you are reinventing the word “Begotten”. But we do see in scriptures where men were “begott…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote The facts are that a literal begetting when spoken of being born is it takes a “Male and Female” and Sons are not born as FULL GROWN sons as you infer Jesus was, are they? So you are reinventing the word “Begotten”. But we do see in scriptures where men were “begotten” after they were born. Stick to the scr…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote Do you see the highlighted parts Mike? This is proof that the word “Begotten, gennaō” does not always mean “to be born”!It’s the same word used for the “begetting” of the saints which already exist…For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I h…[Read more]

REBUTTAL# 7:Mike:Quote Jack can't bring himself to admit there is no scripture that says Jesus spoke all things into being.Reply:In the beginning was THE WORD (logos). The Greek “logos” comes from the verb “lego” which means “to speak.”  Verses 2-3 say that all things came into being by Him. Ergo….I asked:Quote What was the Word doing in the…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote Its a strawmans argument since the word “Theos” (God) does not classify identity, but a being that is in a metaphysical class of its own.I am my Fathers son, but am I less “human” than my Father?Jesus is the “Monogenes” (only of its kind) Son of God.the Roo

WorshippingJesus said to Mikeboll:Quote Its a strawmans argument since the word “Theos” (God) does not classify identity, but a being that is in a metaphysical class of its own.I am my Fathers son, but am I less “human” than my Father?Jesus is the “Monogenes” (only of its kind) Son of God.the Roo

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2010,10:30)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 20 2010,18:28)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,10:20)Hi KJ, You seem to be an expert on angel anatomy. Do give us your sources.Nick,I asked you. Do angels have penises? Yes or no? How do angels marry women? Genesis says that the sons of God took the daughters of men (Cain) as…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,10:24)They are now lost.And even more curious,… They both did it at the same time.They are dependent on each other…They support each other blindly…They are their own support.Has WJ or KJ ever claimed the support of the Holy Spirit?WJ cannot even say that he 'Worships Jesus'!And KJ….believes only in himself…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,10:20)Hi KJ, You seem to be an expert on angel anatomy. Do give us your sources.Nick,I asked you. Do angels have penises? Yes or no? How do angels marry women? Genesis says that the sons of God took the daughters of men (Cain) as wives.Why did God destroy all mankind for the sins of angels? Why did God reply to…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ July 21 2010,10:18)Has anyone noticed that WJ and KJ have abandoned the Trinity?More smokescreening and lies. Do angels have penises? Yes or no?KJ

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,10:16)Hi KJ, So you allegorise what does not easily fit with your dogmas?Nick,Do angels have penises? Yes or no?KJ

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2010,10:08)Quote (JustAskin @ July 20 2010,17:06)You know that you have just lost your argument concerning 'Sons of God' so you resort to smokescreening. It seems that you are the one smokescreening being that you do not have a valid scriptural argument to Jacks post.Jesus answered and said unto them, “Ye do err,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,10:00)Hi KJ, So who were the sons of God present when the foundations of earth were laid?The same ones in Ps 89?”He makes His angels spirits.”Nick,The book of Job is poetic and 38:7 in poetic form is speaking about the founding of Zerubbabel's temple:Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary   7 When the morning…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2010,09:35)Hi KJ, Where is ANGELS written in Jb 38?Exactly Nick. Angels are not mentioned in Job 38. ThanksKJ