Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 02 2009,11:49)Hi TT,Where did Paul say he offered a NEW gospel?Paul did not offer any new gospel. He spoke harshly about those who do in Gal1.So we should not try to make his words into a new gospel. Romans 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Jesus fulfilled the Law.He taught about it to those who askedBut he invited men into the kingdom when he was alive.  They pressed in as the Law was only till JohnIf the law was fulfilled by the time of John as you say, then why did Jesus need to die for us?You are misreading Luke 16.thinker

Kerwin said:Quote There you seem to go making things up again.  You do realize that Pontus, Galatia, and Cappadocia at least were located in Turkey which is a Gentile nation.  I do believe both Asia and Bithynia are also Gentile lands.Peter's reference to those Christians as “strangers” and “pilgrims” in Gentile territories supports me and not y…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 02 2009,08:47)Hi TT, What new gospel? Do you think there are several kingdoms of God to be offered to men?Nick,How could you ask me “what new gospel” when I have expounded Paul's faith alone gospel since I joined this board? Now come on! If you don't like Paul's new faith alone gospel then refute it. But please stop being…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:Quote It is not just the Hebrew people who are considered a holy priesthood but all Christians which is why Peter addresses them as such in what we call his 1 letter.Greetings Kerwin,The epistle of Peter was written to Jewish Christians. Gentile Christians were never called “a royal priesthood”.Kerwin wrote:Quote Peter wrote his…[Read more]

theodorej said:Quote Greetings T…….The jewish (tribes of Judah(jew)Benjimen and Levi (Livitical)) priesthood still exists today,although they rejected the messiah these are the remnants of the children of Israel (12 tribes) who God made a promise(covenant)with,that ” If you Keep These statutes(commandments and Law) I will be your God and you…[Read more]

theodorej said:Quote The requisite for baptism speaks to a symbolic ritual that one partakes of at the time of repentance and symbolicly represents the cleansing of ones soul and the birth of a new creature in Christ….The physical requirement of emersion in water is elementry,however,the repentance is not…..and the gift of the spirit is of God…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote While we are to Honor Him we certainly are not to replace the Father with Him.Gene,You might consider taking this to the Trinitarian thread. BTW, Jesus said that all men should honor the Son EVEN AS they honor the Father (John 5). So be careful.thinker

Gene said:Quote Nick…………God did not give (ALL) authority to Jesus Because God is the only one who has (ALL) authority, Jesus authority is only in subjection to GODS WILL ,Jesus did not Chose Paul, GOD did as Paul himself Plainly said.Gene,I agree with Nick on this one. Jesus' submission to His Father is beside the point. His Father gave…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Hi TT,You say”Jesus said that “not one jot and tittle of the law shall pass till ALL be fulfilled”. True.How unwise it would be to try to submit ourselves to it when it was never given to us.Greetings Nick,That part of your statement I put in bold is what I have been trying to say. We were not given the law. It was Israel the law…[Read more]

Martian,I have intentionally steered away from this thread because I felt it was getting too tense between us, at least on my side it was. I am taking a breather but will come back. I want to make sure I emulate the spirit of Christ.thinker

Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 01 2009,11:07)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 31 2009,14:27)When did Jesus teach salvation “apart” from the law? Jesus required that men obey the law in order to be saved.And when did Peter teach salvation apart from the law? He said that a man must be baptized to receive the remission of his sins and to receive the gift of the Holy…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 30 2009,05:15)Hi, Is Christ divided like your gospel?1 Corinthians 1:13Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?Nick,You replied to none of my points. Jesus preached only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Then Paul came along and extended the covenant to Gentiles as…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:Quote You fail to understand why I quoted that passage.  Remember that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.  Like Aron and his sons he was entering the ministry.  In the steps of Jesus we too will become a royal priesthood if we choose to follow his footsteps.  Did Jesus rebel and say I have faith and so I do not have to do the wor…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Yes, God has made a promise that if we believe his testimony regarding what he has done for us in the person of His Son and His Christ, and we repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of our sins, we shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.Marty,You have helped me prove my point. You have just…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote Water baptism is a work of obedience to God showing that you have believed and have repented and are united with Jesus in his death, burial and resurrection.Marty,First, baptism is NOT a requirement in the new covenant age. It was a part of the foundation which has been laid once for all. The command is to not lay that foundation…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote And what was the “mystery”?  Some new gospel?  I think not!Paul said,Quote But NOW the righteousness of God APART from the law is being revealed…through faith in Jesus Christ.When did Jesus teach salvation “apart” from the law? Jesus required that men obey the law in order to be saved.And when did Peter teach salvation apart f…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2009,06:42)Hi TT, We serve the same master. 1Cor3 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?Nick,I'm done replying to you.Love in Christ,thinker

Nick said:Quote Check that verse about the lamb slain with other translations and you will see the KJV has led you up a gumtree.Compare these and you will see it is the book being spoken of.Revelation 13:8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 31 2009,13:02)This is the first use I find of Baptism in scripture.Exodus 29:1-17(NIV) reads:Quote 1 “This is what you are to do to consecrate them, so they may serve me as priests: Take a young bull and two rams without defect. 2 And from fine wheat flour, without yeast, make bread, and cakes mixed with oil, and wafers spread…[Read more]