Thinker asked Nick:Quote Where did Jesus say that the new age began with His resurrection?Nick replied:Quote Jesus said in mt2627And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.Nick,First, I fail to see…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Paul also said whosoever that under Law (forced compliance) is under a curse. We are under a NEW and  LIVING WAY.Gene,You're right again. It's all so simple. I think we come to the Scripture with childhood baggage that prevents us from seeing these things. Paul said that the old covenant was for “children”. Quote Even so we, when…[Read more]

Nick:Quote Jesus said this after his resurrection which began the new age.Where did Jesus say that the new age began with His resurrection? Hebrews 9 says that the destruction of the earthly tabernacle was the “sign” that the new order had comeQuote …the Holy Spirit signifying this, that the way into the Holiest of all was not yet made manifest…[Read more]

Nick asked:Quote So tell us again how washed bodies are the same as sprinkled hearts ??Who said that washed bodies and sprinkled hearts are the same? I said only that the blood of Christ effected both. It says that Christ's body was the “veil” through which we gain access to God. So His blood is the “pure water” that makes us enter before God with…[Read more]

Seeking wrote:Quote It appears Paul taught that that faith brought forth obedience.  What did they obey?Seeking,The “obedience” that Paul spoke about was obedience to the doctrine of grace,Quote But God be thanked that though you were the slaves of sin, you have obeyed from the heart that FORM OF DOCTRINE to which you were delivered (Rom. 6:17).…[Read more]

Gene said to Kerwin:Quote Kerwin ……why would anyone want to  back to the old covenant, when they have the New Covenant , why go back to the weak and beggarly things. A covenant the they nor their Father could Keep. The New far exceed the Old Covenant, with far better Promises , one being of eternal life and a eternal inheritance with Christ,…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Throughout the Acts of the Apostles, believers are baptized in water and the book of the Acts of the Apostles is the only book in the new testament which does not end in the words: “Amen” or so be it, therefore the Acts of the Apostles is an ongoing book because the gospel and the Acts of God will go on until the Lord comes for…[Read more]

David said:Quote -THINKER I'm curious when you think the old covenant ended and when the new covenant began.I don't think Jesus was talking about the conclusion of the “old covenant.”  I believe he didn't use that word.  Anyway, I believe the old covenant ended before he said those words anyway. Hence, he could not be talking about that during h…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2009,14:49)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 04 2009,11:44)Epistemaniac said:Quote faith precedes regenerationI disagree. Men are regenerated from the womb (Galatians 4:21-30).thinkerHi thethinker:And so, in what way do the scriptures that you quote from Galatians state that we are regenerated from the womb?MartyHi Marty,In…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2009,18:30)“Entering into the synagogue, he spoke with boldness for three months, GIVING TALKS and using persuasion CONCERNING the KINGDOM OF GOD.” (acts 19:8)“And now, look! I know that all of YOU among whom I went PREACHING THE KINGDOM will see my face no more.” (acts 20:25)”And he explained the matter to them by b…[Read more]

David said:Quote He may have mentioned grace, but he dis preach about God's kingdom.David,I think we agree. I want to get clarification from you to be sure. I believe that the gospel message evolved and that Christ revealed to Paul later in his life that justification was by faith alone.thinker

Gene said:Quote thethinker………you have it right, we are now spiritually baptized and Keep the commandments through the Spirit of GOD. The ordinances contained in law Sabbath Days, Holy days clean and unclean meats all (physical), water Baptism (physical) all are shadows of of things (to come). These Physical shadows are fulfilled in Spirit.…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote Nowhere does the Rom.7:6 text state Paul received his “faith alone” revelation.  This is your addition.  In fact, as usual, you ignore context and grab one passage you feel fits.Seeking,I got my verses mixed up. It was Rom. 3:21 where Paul stated His faith alone gospel,Quote But now the righteousness APART from the law is b…[Read more]

Thinker said:Quote Paul baptized before he was imprisoned. While in prison he received his new FAITH ALONE gospel. Seeking replies:Quote I beg of you a scripture for this one.  Sounds like gospel according to Thinker.Seeking,I have answered this a zillion times now. Paul learned while imprisoned that service to the law is purely according to…[Read more]

David said:Quote “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.””David,Jesus said that he would be with…[Read more]

Epistemaniac said:Quote faith precedes regenerationI disagree. Men are regenerated from the womb (Galatians 4:21-30).thinker

Nick said:Quote Baptism is the new circumcision.Are those under the old covenant circumcised?We should be 'circumcised' according to the NTYou're mistaken Nick. God's people were both physically circumcised and physically baptized under the old covenant. We are both spiritually circumcised and spiritually baptized under the new covenant. Read…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote i believe the ten commandments are spirit and will never be done away with, i believe what was done away with is the way there Keep , one through works of  (LAW) forced compliance, EX 20:20 (using the medium of fear), the other is being created in us by GOD himself. One is works of law the other works of the Spirit, but never is…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote You are not in right standing with the Father if you are wilfully disobeying his commandments.Marty,This is a bold statement you make. Jesus said that the true worshiper worships the Father in the spirit:Quote But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truthYou should…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 04 2009,10:04)Hi thethinker:And so, are you saying that the Apostle Paul did not baptize people in water because he made the following statement:Quote 1Cr 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 1Cr 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 1Cr…[Read more]