Martian said:Quote I did not personally say any of those words. That was a quote from an E magazine from the Ancient Hebrew Research Center, written by Jeff Benner. In fact I posted in the beginning the title of the magazine, the issue number and the date.Martian,First, you are finally going to get a source from me. Second, I grant that you did…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,12:33)Hi TT, Faith without works is dead.Nick,You're quoting the epistle of James which was written while the church was still under the old covenant. There is no reference at all to the death of Christ in the book of James. Therefore, the church was still under the old covenant.Under the new covenant a man is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,12:25)Hi TT, The body of Christ knows no time context.  Acts 2 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.Nick,You're correct that the body of Christ knows no time context. But the “promise” mentioned in Acts 2:39 is salvation.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2009,12:25)Hi TT, The body of Christ knows no time context.  Acts 2 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.Nick,You're correct that the body of Christ knows no time context. But the “promise” mentioned in Acts 2:39 is salvation.…[Read more]

Martian said:Quote I did not say that Strong’s says that. Anyone who knows anything about reference works knows that most reference works are keyed to Strongs. The Strong’s reference number only indicates that.Martian, Oh really? Here is what you said:Quote The Hebrew word for faith is hnwma (emunah – Strong's #530) and is an action oriented wor…[Read more]

Thinker said:Quote Since the commission to baptize was to the APOSTLES and they're all dead now, then baptism died with them. For Jesus did not give the authority to baptize to everyone.Nick replied:Quote Are they?1Cor1228And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of…[Read more]

Martian said:Quote The Hebrew word for faith is hnwma (emunah – Strong's #530) and is an action oriented word meaning “support”. To all,Strong's does NOT say that faith is an action oriented word meaning “support”.  Martian concocted this definition from his own mind and it is altogether horse hockey. The Bible does not teach that faith is…[Read more]

thinker said:Quote I don't know any “faith alone” Christians who believe that they can live any life they want. I certainly have not inferred this.  Seeking replied:Quote You are right!  You have not inferred that and I didn't mean to infer you had. Unfortunately, I have had many state this when living a very sordid life and attending church, c…[Read more]

942767 posted:Quote Hi MK:Jesus is the person who has the role of baptizing someone with the Holy Ghost.The commission to the Apostles was to baptize in water.  Just as they obeyed the commission throughout the Acts of the Apsostles.Exactly! Since the commission to baptize was to the APOSTLES and they're all dead now, then baptism died with them.…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Samuel………..I think you may be better off then you think Brother. I have felt the same way many times in my life also. I do at times get caught to much is some of these debates myself. Something i need to work on.The more we loathe ourselves because of the sinners we are the better off we are. The more we think we got it all…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote did not mean you specifically.  I thought I could be taken that way and quickly added the above.  The only difficulty I have with “Faith Alone” is with those who feel they can go on in sinful lifestyles claiming, ” I am saved by grace through faith alone.”as justification.  That was a main objective in my original question, “w…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote Many enjoy to think they have everything sorted out point in time and extend no room for growth in understanding.How much do I have to reach out to you before you lighten up a little? I never inferred that I have everything sorted out in point in time. I said that I strive to remove all inconsistency from my thinking. Just…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 07 2009,07:05)Hi Samual,There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. So enough of the doubt and  self condemnation. You are seated with Christ in the heavenlies.Rejoice. Again I say rejoice. The angels are now your name is written in heaven.Nick,You should have added baptism. For today on the “Faith alone”…[Read more]

Greetings Seeking,I may be in error for saying that you personally have required baptism. I have been discoursing with so many about the subject that I lost track. I think you did say that baptism is still in effect. On another thread Marty told Gene that he is not right with God concerning the baptism issue. Where do “Christians” get the idea…[Read more]

Samuel asked:Quote If no man has ever even seen the fullness of GOD, how can you even begin to start trying to comprend his fullness?We start by picking up the written revelation God has given to us, namely, the Bible.thinker

Seeking said:Quote By saying you, you include me.Seeking,I love you maaan! But you have said that we are required to be baptized. Quote Elsewhere you have denied me my statements as to what I believe and have  strongly inferred I was dualistic.I'm trying to provoke you to think it all out. I was “dualistic” once myself. I am a graduate of the…[Read more]

David said:Quote I'm not sure what you mean by “justification” was by faith alone.David,Justification is the legal declaration by God that we are guiltless in Christ. It's as if we never sinned. It means that we are right with God. Justification is solely based in Christ's work in the behalf of His people. Under the old covenant before Christ died…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 06 2009,14:00)Nick……….there are Physical things for the Canal Minds and there a Spiritual things for the Spiritual minds. Trying to mix the two doesn't work Nick. The baptism of Christ is what is need for all who are being saved. IMOGene,Jesus warned against Nick's kind of thinking. He said that new wine cannot be…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote Isaac was born to Abraham and Sarah from a promise that was made to Abraham.  God told him that he would provide him with an heir.  Isaac symbolic of the promised Messiah.Greetings Marty,Paul did not limit the metaphor to the Messiah alone. He extended it to all believersQuote So then, brethren, we are not the children of the b…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote I DON'T SEE THAT ANYONE WHO HAS POSTED HERE HAS SAID ANYTHING ELSE.THANKS FOR ADDING TO WHAT WAS ALREADY SAID.On the contrary. Some of you are teaching that we are required to be baptized. And you assume that by “faith alone” I mean that we shouldn't do good deeds as Christians. By “faith alone” I mean today that we are justified…[Read more]