Martian said:Quote I let some of my friends read his posts and we all get a good laugh out of them.The Jews laughed at Jesus too. Jesus promised those who stood for His name that they would be hated as well.Martian said:Quote THE REASON I AGREED that YHWH can mean “He became” IS BECAUSE of our Western thinking.In other words, Martian really has…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote Can you help me with this one?  I do not follow your reasoning.  The conversation of John 15 started back in John 13 during and after the foot washing example.  So, the conversation was being held with Jews, more specifically,the Apostles.Seeking,It is apparent that I could have articulated myself more clearly. The term “w…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:Quote I can think of two times in Acts when Gentiles were the persecutors though once the Jews did stir them up.  There may be more. Greetings Kerwin,What examples of Gentiles hating the disciples are you thinking?thinker

David said:Quote No “man” has seen God.The only-begotten “god” explained him.David,I am glad you mentioned “only begotten god” though I would have capitalized “god” indicating that Jesus was God. One who is “begotten” is kindred to the one that begat him and is therefore the same as the one who begat him. Your father who begat you is man.…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote I am expecting God to ordain me through an Apostle (a man sent by God).Your faith is misplaced Marty. If you do not correct this then you might be angry with God if it should not happen. I've been there.Quote Just because you haven't seen the gifts of the spirit in Action in the church doesn't mean that all this has ceased.  It…[Read more]

Quote You even say JEWS = WORLDJesus said that world = Jews. Read it for yourself,Quote If the world hates you, know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you….But this has happened as it is…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote I believe that you hit on the problem, and that is that men are ordaining men to teach them the bible, but it should not be men who are doing the ordaining but God who should ordain those who teach His Word.First, we agree that men should not ordain men to teach the Bible. Ordination is altogether unbiblical because it involves…[Read more]

Meerkat said:Quote In what way was Jesus tempted if he did not have the ability to sin?  How is Jesus our example if he is different from us in that you say he did not have the ability to sin and so did not have a carnal nature that we have. What did he “overcome”?Meerkat,What do you mean by the term “carnal nature” in reference to Christ? Did…[Read more]

Nick wrote:Quote Does anyone know what God can do?If we do not know that is it useful to talk about what we think He cannot do?Nick,I have said over and over on various threads that God can become what He wants to become. So it's not me that says that God cannot do anything. You need to ask Martian that question. He seems to think that God is so…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote It is a brave man who can confidently assert that he is now an oracle of truth.Nick,Who said anything about anyone being an oracle of truth? The passage from Hebrews simply says that in the new covenant age the law is written in the minds and hearts of Christians. Therefore, vain philosophies are no longer a threat to them. Paul…[Read more]

Nick wrote:Quote Where does scripture define the WORLD as the JEWS?Hi Nick,In John 15:18-25 Jesus told His disciples that the world would hate them as it hated Him. He said that this would happen “as it is written in THEIR law” (v. 25). Therefore, the “world” was the Jews because the Gentiles did not have the law.thinker

Meerkat said:Quote You seem to rely on Jesus never having the ability to sin is why he never did sin when it was Gods foreknowledge and Spirit which kept his son from sinning. I agree with Martian that to be tempted there is a choice and awareness involved – if there was never the awareness and ability to choose sin, then he was not tempted, and…[Read more]

Martian said:Quote Certainly if Christ had sinned it would have interfered with God’s foreknowledge because God would have seen something different then we now know he saw. Had that happened Gods promises would have been written differently.In other words, Christ's ability to interfere implies that God's promise could really fail. This in turn i…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote God himself is spirit and no man can see him or has ever seen him.t8,But Jesus saw Him,Quote No man has seen God at any time except the only begotten of God (John 1:18) There was one exception.thinker

Kerwin wrote:Quote I oppose the Trinity tenet just I oppose any that tenet that believes that Jesus is God because it denies that Jesus was tempted by evil just as we are or accuses God being tempted by evil.Kerwin,Trinitarians do not deny that Jesus was tempted. I challenge you to produce a statement from a Trinitarian that says so.Kerwin…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 10 2009,17:18)Quote It had nothing to do with Greek philosophy then and has nothing to do with Chinese philosophy now.What does it have to do with now?  How does it apply today?  Or is this scripture now useless?David,Of course the Scriptures apply now. The scriptures are altogether useful to us. The difference between then a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2009,11:51)Hi TT, God did not transform Himself into a burning bush.Nor did He become a man.Thus saith Nick.thinker

Martian said:Quote n our English translations “hayah”  is translated “became”, however it is only one of several meanings and applications of the word.Agreed. But I have not said anything to the contrary. I am trying to get you to comment on how “hayah” is used in Exodus 3:14. SO LET ALL WHO READ NOTE THIS: I HAVE SAID THAT “hayah” IN EXODUS 3…[Read more]

Thethinker originally posted:Quote You make an ontological distinction between the Messenger of YHWH and YHWH Himself. You deny that Jacob saw God Himself  “face to face” because the narrative says that Jacob wrestled with the Messenger of YHWH. The fact is however that Jacob believed that he had seen God Himself face to face. This means that…[Read more]

Martian said:Quote If Jesus was unaware of his ability to sin, he could never be tempted.Who said that a man who does not have the ability to sin cannot be tempted? I do not find your hypothesis anywhere in scripture. Give me a “thus saith the Lord” reference to work with. I find just the opposite. Hebrew says that Jesus our High Priest was…[Read more]