Quote (martian @ Feb. 22 2009,06:23)Look at the responses. The thinker at least asked if I was OK and showed some concern.Gene did the second best. He actually asked me to get involved again.Nick did his usualLightenup launched her doctrine at me again as if somehow that was her God.But WJ wins the forum prize. Not only did He usurp God and drag…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote martian is not an ignorant unbeliever or a Christian who is new in his faith.Right! Martian said himself that he has been walking with God for forty years. So what's going on with him now?thinker

Before time siad:Quote Nevertheless we know there were many raised before Him. Did Paul have in mind a better resurrection?Who rose before Christ?thinker

Quote (martian @ Feb. 22 2009,02:23)Getting a little bored again.Let’s see….. What can I stir up today?Hey Thethinker, you still teaching that Anti-Christ doctrine of God becoming a man?Hey lightenup. How about you? Ypou still trying to figure out waht happened to all of Christ memories from His pre-existence?   LOLCome on. You gotta do bett…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Feb. 22 2009,05:55)thinker ……….Yes but then Paul says shall we (SIN) that grace may abound, He said, GOD forbid. And scripture says that all  sin is the transgression of the Law. You see my point on the one hand we are told we are not under (the) Law (meaning the ten commandments) on the other Hand we are told God writes (the)…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote I believe Jesus overcame Himself and we to must overcome ourselves also, as He did, and Put our Wills to death also as He did, is what he is speaking of is what he did we must do also.Gene,What “will” did Jesus have to put to death? He was without the desire to sin. I don't follow you my bro.thinker

Quote (martian @ Feb. 22 2009,02:23)Getting a little bored again.Let’s see….. What can I stir up today?Hey Thethinker, you still teaching that Anti-Christ doctrine of God becoming a man?Hey lightenup. How about you? Ypou still trying to figure out waht happened to all of Christ memories from His pre-existence?   LOLCome on. You gotta do bett…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Notice the definite articles are not in the original Greek translations. This does greatly alter the texts, because the Definite Article is specific to a set of Laws (the ten commandments) but when it is removed, then Law by it self is in a general sense and means the way law works and law works through forced compliance through…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2009,19:44)HI TT, The Spirit of Jesus is in all those in his body.They know his voiceGal2 20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.Your point being…?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2009,19:45)Hi tt, There is the millenial age to come and then the age where the Kingdom is given into God's own handsAre you saying that there are ages to come inwhich the gospel message is not offered? Are you saying that the new covenant is NOT an “everlasting” covenant?thinker

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2009,08:08)TheThinker wrote:Quote Jesus was changed when He went up to heaven. He appeared to Paul as a “great light” that blinded Him. You mentioned a scripture I had not considered but I do not see where it backs up what you say since it states that the light flashed from heaven and was even seen by Paul’s companions t…[Read more]

942767 wrote:Quote Now let's see here – you baptize, you teach others to obey everything you were commanded to do, they obey and teach others and on and on.  You die.  It doesn't end with your death.  Jesus didn't intend it to, thus His instructions that would be perpetual.Jesus told His disciples that He would be with THEM until the end of the ag…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Feb. 21 2009,17:32)Nick…….You said we were never under the law, then you say the law was never done away with. Please explain, this is why i wanted to start a thread on (LAW). we can bring out a lot of this stuff. I think it is confusing to a lot of people, because of translation errors.peace and…[Read more]

Quote (wild_olive_branch @ Feb. 21 2009,12:56)think, again, you and i are the same, in any regards…… you a man (if you are) cannot remarry either, even if she is abusive or an adultress.  the only scripture i am coming across is that young widows may remarry, bear children, manage the house, giving no occasion to the adversary for reviling…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2009,11:32)Hitt,Ephesians 2:7That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.Nick,I agree with you, I think. Hebrews says that the new covenant is “everlasting” (Heb. 13:20). And Revelation says that the gospel is an “everlasting” message (Rev.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2009,11:07)Hi tt, We cannot alter the Law. But the Lord of the sabbath was given ALL authority.But we do in fact “alter” the law when we say that a woman may divorce her husband before he is dead. The old covenant law has been abolished in its entirety. Therefore, women have the same rights to divorce as their husbands…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote I have been studying the Word of God with prayer for almost 30 years, and waiting for the position of Bishop in the church in which He has chosen to use me in this last day.Marty,What “last day” are you talking about? The Bible knows only the last day of the old covenant age. The new covenant age is forever. So you're waiting for…[Read more]

Quote (wild_olive_branch @ Feb. 21 2009,07:59)the law has never been taken away, or it would not be written in your heart and mind.much love.Then a woman cannot divorce or re-marry until her husband is dead though he is abusive and adultreous. But a man can divorce the woman while she is still alive.Does this sound like new covenant justice to you?thinker

Timothy said:Quote I don't think anyone is arguing that we are under the old covenent, the point is that neither was Paulwhen he said what he said.Timothy,The old covenant was still in effect when Paul said what he said. According to 2 Corinthians 3 God's people had not yet been transformed from the image of Moses (the letter of the law) to the…[Read more]

Quote (dirtyknections @ Feb. 21 2009,02:49)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 21 2009,02:43)Quote (Oneway2besaved @ June 12 2006,13:59)I have read several verses in the bible that discourage women from preaching or being leaders in a church.  Let me know what you think.Those statements that discouraged women from preaching were written while the church was…[Read more]