Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,09:40)Hi tt,So were all the nations raised and gathered before the Son of God? When was this?Nick,This thread is not about Preterism and I should not have posted commentary that led to a discussion on Preterism. I believe that the judgment of the nations of Israel in Matt 25 was fulfilled and that the language in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2009,05:26)Hi tt, Really? So the men of other nations cannot enjoy the Mercy of God?  Can you show why you believe this from scripture?Nick,The Gentiles came into salvation after the separation of the sheep and the goats of Israel.thinker

Seeking said:Quote Our argument is with you because you denied the desire had to conceive to be sin. Seeking,You got things mixed up my bro. You are saying that I deny that desire had to conceive to be sin. I said just the opposite. I have copied and pasted that post to Nick,Nick thinks:   Quote It does not say desires always are followed . Oh…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote You interject –   But every sinful desire that is conceived leads to sin.”  Which is exactly the point I and Nick have offered.Seeking,Then you and Nick are arguing with yourselves and not me.Thinker said to Seeking:Quote You say that hunger is a “lust of the flesh”? Come on! This idea contains the seeds of Gnosticism”Seeking r…[Read more]

Not3 said:Quote Hang in there, brother, what else can we do?Mandy,Thank you for the charge to persevere. You're a classy lady! Now you persevere too. Don't be discouraged.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Feb. 25 2009,04:17)Thinker……….brother where you would say (HIS) own Father. I would say (OUR) Own Father, I see Jesus as an extension of ourselves, I am going to My Father and YOUR Father, My God and YOUR GOD. A common connection is the way I see it brother. Jesus is a heir but so are we, heirs and Joint heirs with Christ. “I…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote I agree not all recived the words, but never the les they were written for all. imo, and where it says if you had faith the size of a grain of mustard seed you could say unto the mountain be plucked up and cast into the sea and it would happen. This statement requires some explanation. First we must identify the Faith we are…[Read more]

Thinker asked:Quote Why are you discouraged?Not3 replied:Quote Mostly because some Christians believe that you have to agree with their personal doctrine as truth, OR you're not a Christian (to them).  That thinking makes me nuts.Not3,I understand! And thanks for your reply. I was a member of a discussion board and was kicked off by fellow…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote thinker ………i would tend to agree with you , but remember Jesus said the words were not His words , but the Fathers words, so He definitely showed a speration between Him and the Father. John 17:8 …> For i have given unto them the words which (YOU) gave me,…  and again, John 17:14… > I have given them (THY) word; This…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote LAW= Forced compliance??Jesus looked forward to the time when men would become like fountains,Quote He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, “out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water” (John 7:38)As I said in a post above, you don't force a fountain to bring forth water. It just does! And God's people are no…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Nick……….Again your not getting whats being said, we are not saying the Law(ten commandments) Is not good and right, OK, what we are saying is that the way it is Kept was Paul's argument , is it by the way LAW works (by forced compliance ) or by way of the way of the Spirit of GOD which writes the commandments on our hear and…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote We the gentile nations were never under the law, but we all, Jew and gentile, have violated God's eternal law.I agree with Marty on this one. I would add only that the sacrificial death of Christ is the remedy for the jew who disobeyed the written code and also for the gentile who suppressed the revelation of God in nature. thinker

Seeking said:Quote This statement DOES NOT agree with scripture! ” “The desire to sin NECESSARILY gives birth to sin.”I am just telling you what James said. He said that when desire has conceived it gives birth to sin. The mood is indicative. If he meant that desire might give birth to sin he would have used the subjunctive mood. Seeking…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus wrote:Quote So if Jesus was tempted in this way then he would have committed adultry. Therefore being tempted in all points as we are is not including temptation to the evil lust in mens hearts.Satan came to Jesus and found “Nothing in him”.Exactly! Jesus' sinless life proves that He had “nothing in Him.”thinker

Not3 said:Quote Right now I'm a little descouraged by most of what I've been reading here today.Why are you discouraged?thinker

Quote (Gene @ Feb. 24 2009,11:36)Thinker……True i totally agree that we are not (Justified) by the (WORKS) of the Law, We are Justified by the Blood of Christ, that i full well know, but you see my point was in this is that Paul was not saying the ten commandments are done away with , but we Keep them through the Spirit we received from GOD,…[Read more]

Nick thinks: Quote It does not say desires always are followed .Oh yes it does Nick. It says that when desire conceives it gives birth to sin. Jesus never sinned. Therefore, He never had the desire to sin. He said, Quote “I always do those things that please My Father.”thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2009,12:01)Hi tt,So we should believe the implication that C sees in the reaction of the Jews?Is it written?Nick,The apostle John concurred with the reaction of the Jews.Quote Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He had not only broken the sabbath, but also said that God was His own father making…[Read more]

Corinthian wrote:Quote They knew exactly what Jesus was claiming with those words, so they naturally wanted to stone him for declaring Himself the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the God who spoke from the burning bush.AMEN BROTHER……………….!!!thinker

Seeking wrote:Quote I am working it through as to how He could be temptedlike we are and empathize with us without capacity to fail.For now I am resting on the passage I mentioned earlier from James 1.  Jam.1:14 seems to tie being tempted with capacity and desire though.  “Jas 1:14  But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his ow…[Read more]