Seeking said:Quote “Gentiles – In the original, Greeks. All those who were not Jews were called Greeks, because they were chiefly acquainted with those pagans only who spake the Greek language. It is remarkable that Jesus returned no answer to these inquiries. He rather chose to turn off their minds from a speculation about the place to which he…[Read more]

Quote So then, we must accept your authorities as the end of the matter.  We must disregard the definitions given by Thayer and Strong as illegitimate and inaccurate I suppose.Seeking, I believe you have misunderstood Strong's. He says that a “hellenist” is simply an “inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek speaking person.” As far as Thayer…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote Note, MAY be – not IS.  So what IS a hellenist?a Hellen (Grecian) or inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek speaking person, especially a non-Jew: – Gentile, Greek. StrongThayer Definition:1) a Greek either by nationality, whether a native of the main land or of the Greek islands or colonies2) in a wider sense the name…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote If you claim to be equal to something, then by that admission you are saying that you are not that thing, but like it.Jesus equal to God means that he is not God but like him.e.g., 2 soccer teams may be equal in skill but they are different teams and not the same team.If Jesus is equal to God, then he is not God.Another example is…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Yes it is written to the body of Christ drawn from Jew and gentile.Romans was written to Jewish Christians. First, Paul explicitly said that he was speaking to those who “know the law” (Rom. 7:1). The Gentiles did not have the law so Paul could not have been writing to them. Second, Paul wrote to Christians who had been under the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 01 2009,06:49)Thinker…… Jesus also said the Father who gave them to me is Greater the ALL. He was not referring to himself. He also said (Thy) kingdom come (Thy) WILL be done . Jesus Showed he Had a different will then the Father's Will, many times. And why would Jesus Say for Thou art the (ONLY) true GOD. the word Thy and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,06:09)Hi TT, God opened the door to those who had no hope. But the door for all men, Jew or greek, never closed.Paul said “to the Jew FIRST“. Gentiles could not be saved until all the remnant of Israel of that generation came in to salvation first. Israel was God's “firstborn” (Ex. 4:22) and therefore had the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,05:50)Hi tt, Your condemnations of others do you no favours.Paul TAUGHT those who had had the one gospel preached to them and had been reborn from above.First sowing then watering.You do yourself no favors by avoiding a simple question put to you. If the word “ethnos” should be translated “Gentiles” as our…[Read more]

Gene asked:Quote thinker……….Why did Jesus say that the Father was greater the Him then.Because the body which Jesus took put limitations on Him. But He no longer has that body. He now exists without those limitations because He was glorified. Therefore, the Father is not greater than Jesus now.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 01 2009,05:15)Nick……….I am not saying there is a different salvation Gospel , Jesus Died for us all both Gentiles or Israelite. But to say Paul teachings were the exact same as Peter and the Apostles is not true< Paul was give More of a Spiritual revelation then the other Apostles were , Because he taught against some of…[Read more]

Thinker originally said:Quote The synagogues was where the common people of Israel went to hear the law of Moses. Gentiles were not allowed.Seeking replied:Quote But my version of Acts 14:1 reads differently than yours Act 14:1  Now at Iconium they entered together into the Jewish synagogue and spoke in such a way that a great number of both…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote Resurrection of the body of Christ.Marty,This is an interesting twist on the Apostle's Creed. I hope you can verify that they were referring to the resurrection of the body of Christ. What historical evidence do you have for this?  thinker

Nick said:Quote The OLD MAN is of the first ADAM.Earth into which God breathed.It cannot inherit the kingdom.Nick,You are one confused dude! The old man of Romans 6 was identified as Israel's first husband in chapter 7. Romans was not written to Gentiles. It was written to Jewish Christians.Nick said:Quote We have the choice of continuing to live…[Read more]

Nick siad:Quote The son had functional equality just as Joseph did in the Pharaoh's court.Nick,You're reading your “functional” theory into the narrative. John said that Jesus claimed equality with God because He said that God was His own Father. We've been through this before. Quote Therefore, the Jews sought all the more to kill Him because He…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote How does God being his Father make him equal with God?  Was this what John thought, or was he saying that the Pharisees concluded that he was saying that he was equal with God because he said that His Father worked on the Sabbath and he worked because being God's Son gave him the privilege of breaking the Sabbath Law?Marty, It…[Read more]

Nick,It's time for you to answer questions. In Acts 13 Paul told the Jewish leaders “we turn to the nations”. If the word “nations” here means “Gentiles”, then why did Paul go only into the Jewish synagogues? Explain why Paul never went to a Gentile after saying “we turn to the nations”?I have grown weary of answering your questions without your…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2009,21:06)Hi tt, Scripture does not say water baptism was ever done away with. Should we rather believe you?Nick,You keep making me repeat myself. Hebrews 6:1-2 explicitly says that baptisms were the “elementary principles of Christ”. The Hebrew Christians were warned to not lay again that foundation. Believe the…[Read more]

Seking said:Quote Here is Young's Literal Translation -Act 10:44-47  While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.   And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.   For they were hearing them sp…[Read more]

To all,I am done for today. A good friend passed away and I have things to do. later.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2009,06:06)Hi TT,Rom6 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have…[Read more]