Quote (942767 @ Mar. 05 2009,09:40)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 04 2009,08:33)To all,The Scriptures do not say that our sin nature was put to death. It says that we are to do this ourselves. Therefore, the “old man” in Romans 6 cannot be our sin nature because that man was crucified with Christ. We don't do this ourselves. Again, the “old man” in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,09:46)Hi TT, Men have used this idea to devise trinity. But some angels are elohim and they were there even when the foundations of earth were laid.Nick,So what? The fact is that Moses had other words for God in the singular to choose from but he didn't. And there is also the excahange from plural pronoun to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 04 2009,15:49)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 01 2009,09:35)So God's form is a “E Pluribus Unum”.thinkerHey thinker.Think about this.If God is Plural, then why not address God as “THEM”.After all, when we address a human we are not talking to their body or flesh, but to the real person/identity. e.g., would you address conjoined twins as…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,05:47)Hi TT, No Jesus was crucified.In water baptism we too can die with him even though the body of earth owned by earth yet lives.As gentiles we were never wedded previously to any covenant.Huh?thinker

Nick asked:Quote Where does it say we must put our sin nature to death?Quote Therefore, put to death your members which are of the earth (Colossians 3:5).and, Quote They that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires (Galatians 5:24)The “old man” cannot be the sin nature for that man was crucified with Christ. We did not…[Read more]

Gene wrote:Quote Thinker……….Thats the whole point, Jesus could have failed because he could be tempted, but he didn't, so that leads to the question Why did he not fail? The answer is that GOD was in Him after He recieved the HOLY SPIRIT ,Gene,You said that Jesus could fail. Then you said that He did not fail becuase God was in Him through…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 01 2009,09:52)Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 28 2009,15:17)Gene,Philippians 2 says that Jesus “emptied” Himself of all His divine authority and rights for our salvation. It's really not difficult to understand.thinkerBecause the body which Jesus took put limitations on Him.These statements of yours, being true, why wouldn't he be…[Read more]

Kerwin wrote:Quote I do know that neither Elijah nor Enoch entered Hades (Sheol) as they are both reported to have ascended to be with God.Kerwin,What is your Scriptural evidence for saying that Elijah and Enoch ascended with God? thinker

Seeking said:Quote I do not recall saying that Matthew four read anything about “Gentiles.”  If I did, I was wrong.  I am posting four versions that I read that agree totally with the rendering you gave of Mt.4:23.Seeking,You did not say that “Gentiles” was the correct translation in Matthew 4. I was invoking Matthew 4 because you assumed that t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2009,13:39)Hi TT, You decided”All men are justified by faith alone today.” With few miracles around very few must be saved?To all,See what I'm saying? Now we're being told that salvation is necessarily connected to miracles. Such nonsense is the result of interpreting Scripture out of its historical context.thinker

Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 04 2009,11:46)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 03 2009,17:30)Thank you for your kindness.Quote “Truly, truly, I say to you, you will not have gone over all the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes.”When did this happen and when did they terminate travel?SeekingSeeking,I truly apologize for my sarcasm. I have become…[Read more]

To All,Our brother Seeking is starting to fall apart. He can't even give a coherent reply now. I showed him from Strong's that the Greek “ghay” may refer to “regions” or it may have a global reference. But what was Seeking's sarcastic reply? He said, “Now which one should I choose?” He said this after I had already helped him out. Jesus said,Quote…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote There are still apostles in the everliving body of Christ.I don't see real, bonafide miracles being performed today. thinker

To all,The Scriptures do not say that our sin nature was put to death. It says that we are to do this ourselves. Therefore, the “old man” in Romans 6 cannot be our sin nature because that man was crucified with Christ. We don't do this ourselves. Again, the “old man” in Romans 6 was Israel's first husband (Moses, the law).thinker

Seeking said:Quote Here is how I follow along with John though I also want to make it clear that I see many passages where Jesus speaks of himself as subsurvient to God the Father as the graeter,  I still need to be honest with the text in John and what he states.  It does not matter what “logos” meant in hundreds of other passages if John i…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 04 2009,06:51)Seeking ………The apostles were commissioned to go to the lost Sheep of the house of Israel, not to the gentiles as Jesus specifically told them to do. Galilee was in the Provence of the gentiles, but a large part of the Lost Sheep of Israel were living there and this is where Jesus was preaching , He was (ONLY)…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote Absolutely false!  After the coming of the promised Holy Spirit,who would lead into all truth, the Apostles were released to go into non-Israelite nations.  Here is how Jesus put it:Act 1:8  But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Sa…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote So we are to believe they all are erroneous and we can only rely on the ones who say it the way you like?Seeking,First, I can't figure out what you trying to prove from Barnes. He commented on Acts 6:1 and said that there were two classes of Jews, the Hebrews and the Hellenists (or Greeks). Then he cross referenced that with…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote I did not say this. It was the part of the Barnes quote you choose to exclude.Seeking,I was not attributing Barnes' statement to you. I was only trying to show that you are taking Barnes out of context.  On Acts 6:1 Barnes wrote:Quote In the time when the gospel was first preached there were two classes of Jews-those who…[Read more]

Seeking said;Quote Here are Barnes notes.  No line jumping, which you would never do, just what he says about Jn.7:25:Joh 7:35  The dispersed among the Gentiles – To the Jews scattered among the Gentiles, or living in distant parts of the earth. It is well known that at that time there were Jews dwelling in almost every land. There were m…[Read more]