Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the son's/word, beginning in Prov. 8:22-30.Why did John refer to Jesus as the word? Here is the reason.God was never without his…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,02:28)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 13 2010,23:00)John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was (of) God.But the word is not in the greek text in over 5000 manuscripts. You are adding to the scritptures my friend.Dangerous to say the least.WJTO ALL:The Word “God” is used two…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,05:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:54)You are no match for me, spirit and scripture working together, man.He is beating his chest again!Keith,First Mike commmits blasphemy against the Son by saying that He is a god in the “same sense” as satan. Then he blasphemes YHWH by saying that Moses assigned that…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,05:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:54)You are no match for me, spirit and scripture working together, man.He is beating his chest again!Keith,First Mike commmits blasphemy against the Son by saying that He is a god in the “same sense” as satan. Then he blasphemes YHWH by saying that Moses assigned that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2010,02:35)Hi Gene,Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't Jesus “baptised” by holy spirit?  Was it the water that actually baptised him, or the holy spirit?  I have always considered the water as a symbol of cleansing, but the actual baptising isn't concluded until you receive the spirit.  Either way, I think this is what WJ me…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2010,02:35)Hi Gene,Maybe I'm wrong, but wasn't Jesus “baptised” by holy spirit?  Was it the water that actually baptised him, or the holy spirit?  I have always considered the water as a symbol of cleansing, but the actual baptising isn't concluded until you receive the spirit.  Either way, I think this is what WJ me…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:56)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 14 2010,02:11)Fair enough t8. But on a thread I started about Nick's interpretation of 2 Corinthians 5:19 you said that I made an antichrist statement:Quote KJ, God was in Christ.The alternative is that God wasn't in Christ.And it doesn't say that God is Christ.The first line is right, the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:56)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 14 2010,02:11)Fair enough t8. But on a thread I started about Nick's interpretation of 2 Corinthians 5:19 you said that I made an antichrist statement:Quote KJ, God was in Christ.The alternative is that God wasn't in Christ.And it doesn't say that God is Christ.The first line is right, the…[Read more]

Davidbfun said:Quote If God pro-creates, His son would be “God-natured” just like Him but not co-equal except in age as you state.  God exists and has no beginning!  A son has a beginning.David,You do greatly err. There are THREE ways to become a “son” in scripture:1. by procreation2. by adoption3. by appointmentDavid became the son of God by a…[Read more]

Davidbfun said:Quote If God pro-creates, His son would be “God-natured” just like Him but not co-equal except in age as you state.  God exists and has no beginning!  A son has a beginning.David,You do greatly err. There are THREE ways to become a “son” in scripture:1. by procreation2. by adoption3. by appointmentDavid became the son of God by a…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 14 2010,03:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,02:31)Hi All.It is claimed by some that an infinite God can reproduce himself. In fact some claim that God reproduced “a God” that is co-equal to him except in age.Others claim that God reproduced out of his own body a creature that is not God, but something else, while…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 14 2010,03:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,02:31)Hi All.It is claimed by some that an infinite God can reproduce himself. In fact some claim that God reproduced “a God” that is co-equal to him except in age.Others claim that God reproduced out of his own body a creature that is not God, but something else, while…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 14 2010,06:50)Isaiah 43:10; “Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.”Amen!Roo

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 14 2010,06:50)Isaiah 43:10; “Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.”Amen!Roo

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,02:31)Hi All.It is claimed by some that an infinite God can reproduce himself. In fact some claim that God reproduced “a God” that is co-equal to him except in age.Others claim that God reproduced out of his own body a creature that is not God, but something else, while claiming that this creature is Gods…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,02:31)Hi All.It is claimed by some that an infinite God can reproduce himself. In fact some claim that God reproduced “a God” that is co-equal to him except in age.Others claim that God reproduced out of his own body a creature that is not God, but something else, while claiming that this creature is Gods…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote Keith,You have called me many things that I am not and I do not care to go through the threads but these are some that come to mind:DishonestArianPolytheistanti-trinitarianthat I insist that 'begotten' always means to be 'born'Kathi,So you concede that “begotten” does not always mean “born?”Roo

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 13 2010,19:35)Fair enough Roo, but it would be nice if you guys didn't resort to names and labels that we do not identify with. You can challenge what we teach by all means, but calling us Arians means that we follow Arius and if he taught that Jesus was a creature that started life 2000 years ago, and had no divine existence…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2010,09:32)Keith,You have called me many things that I am not and I do not care to go through the threads but these are some that come to mind:DishonestArianPolytheistanti-trinitarianthat I insist that 'begotten' always means to be 'born'KathiKathi,I am not going to justify my negative remarks here. But Keith and I have…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2010,04:54)t8,Roo is giving you proof of an apology to falsely accusing me of claiming a bisexual God and I am considering accepting that apology but will not be quick to do so given the fact that he has also accused me of many things which he has NOT given proof of nor apologized for.  I listed some of them for him and…[Read more]