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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2009,08:04)Hi Not3, What are the commands of Jesus?You must be born again of water and the Spirit.Seek ye first the kingdom of God.As.. seek.. knock.Love one another as I have loved you.Do this in memory of me.Abide in me.Give….But none of it can justify a person. Only faith can justify.thinker

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    Nick said:Quote Being baptised is not your own works.It is the joyful work of the servants of Chist to help you obey the command.Nick,You're contradicting yourself. You say it's not a work and then in the same breath say it is a work. Geez!thinker

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Kerwin said:Quote You are mistaking me for someone else as I believe the Spirit of God is God’s spirit (soul) much like a man has his own spirit (soul).  I do not believe they are separate persons.  I also believe scripture uses the word “spirit” to mean different things depending on the context which confuses the issue.Kerwin,Jesus said that He…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 06 2009,21:14)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 06 2009,20:42)The United States is ONE nation. But it is made up of MANY states. A husband and wife are ONE flesh.  But they are made up of TWO persons. In Ephesians 2 Paul said that in Christ Jew and Gentile are ONE new man. Yet the new man is TWO in one. Paul said also that we are ONE body…[Read more]

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    Seeking said:Quote I am still unclear about what you are referring to as an “erroneous translation” in Mat. 4:23.Seeking,I was talking about Matthew 4:15 which according to our English Bibles the word ethnos is translated as “Gentiles.” From this erroneous translation many think that Jesus' Galilean ministry was to non-Jews. But I have shown that…[Read more]

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    Seeking said:Quote I am still unclear about what you are referring to as an “erroneous translation” in Mat. 4:23.Seeking,I was talking about Matthew 4:15 which according to our English Bibles the word ethnos is translated as “Gentiles.” From this erroneous translation many think that Jesus' Galilean ministry was to non-Jews. But I have shown that…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,05:03)Hi TT, Salvation has always been about faith and God does consider some vessels clean enough in His eyes.But faith has never been about knowledge alone but obedient actions in response to it.Many think Jesus is their Lord but he does not know them.Nick,You know very well that you have said that a person who…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 06 2009,17:54)The Thinker wrote:Quote Do you believe that miracles could happen?I am not sure what this question has to do with what I asked but yes miracles do occur.You did answer my question in that you believe that Jesus was an exception to  the normal course of things which is an acceptable belief.   I had not c…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,17:15)Hi TT, God is not a plural unity. Hear O Israel.God is ONEGod has a beloved Son.The United States is ONE nation. But it is made up of MANY states. A husband and wife are ONE flesh.  But they are made up of TWO persons. In Ephesians 2 Paul said that in Christ Jew and Gentile are ONE new man. Yet the new man…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,15:06)Hi TT, I am not a society but perhaps you may be?Nick,God as a plural unity is a society. Man as a plural unity is a society. No one man is a society all by himself. The man and woman together were a society after God's image.thinker

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    Seeking said:Quote My reply to this uninspired, fallible statement is HOGWASHEISEGESISthe interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas (Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary)Seeking,You say “hogwash” and “eisegesis”? Then answer this. Paul said,Quote For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were AROUSE…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2009,14:04)The Thinker,You said:Quote No entity can exist all by itself including God. God has always been love. If God has always been love then He must have always had a companion to love. Jesus was that companion Please show us in scriptures that a person can't love themselves.  If you were stranded on an island,…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Kerwin said:Quote Though this is and interesting puzzle I am not sure what it has to do with the difference of being created in a womb and being created outside of a womb.  Are you trying to say that Jesus was not created within Mary’s womb but rather changed his shape to that of a human being at the stage of life of a fetus and inhabited her wo…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    rhemareceiver said:Quote trinity is one of them, yet we are heretical if we don't accept the traditional interpretation or have a different view concerning it.RR,If you scroll up and down the threads you will find that I have been labeled an “antichrist” by a non-trinitarian. All classes of men label the others “heretics.” And don't let Nick's…[Read more]

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    Seeking said:Quote Using the “reasoning”, if Moses “enticed” them to sin by giving the law, I guess it would be reasonable to say God enticed them to sin since He gave the law to Moses.Seeking,You're catching on bro! Paul said exactly what you said bro! Quote Moreover, the law (Moses) entered that sin might increase (Rom. 5:21)The law was not…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2009,05:06)Hi TT,You say  “According to Romans 7 Moses incited God's people to sin. The only remedy for this was the death of Moses.”How odd it is that folk let their theories lead them to ridiculous places but they do not notice and still hold their theories.  Like the frog in water warmed to the boil?Nick,Paul s…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Lightenup wrote:Quote Hi all,Since this is the trinity thread I will post here some of my concerns of the trinity doctrine. I am not trying to pick on the trinitarians here, many of my friends and family are trinitarians.We all know that the word “trinity” is not in the scriptures but there are MANY words in the doctrine that make bold claims that…[Read more]

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    Seeking said:Quote Paul has spoken elsewhere about victory over the “old man.”Eph 4:20-23  But ye have not so learned Christ;   If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:   That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;  And be ren…[Read more]

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    942767 said:Quote And so, it is not a matter of Moses being dead, but Jesus the Son of the living God who was born of a woman under the law of Moses having fulflled the law died once unto sin, and having been raised from the dead by the Spirit of God, death has no more dominion over him.Marty,It is a matter of Moses being dead. Paul said, Quote For…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Kerwin said to WJ:Quote Do you realize where your thought is leading here?   You are implying that God has sex with Mary.   That at least is the message I am hearing.   I would rather say that Jesus was in fact created within Mary’s womb though through a different method that the rest of humanity is.  God is not the father of the body of Jesus…[Read more]

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