Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,07:28)Hi tt, Acts 13:23Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:He said he was son of man and I believe him. We can follow a man.Jesus is the Son of Man. But the Son of Man originated from heavenQuote No man has ascended into heaven except He who came down from…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,09:28)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 18 2009,08:18)Nick said:Quote Should we take your word for this?Surely we should rather obey as the disciples did?Nick,It's not like I haven't given Scriptural support before. Just scroll back on this thread for the last two months and review all my arguments from Scripture. Now come…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 16 2009,11:34)Non-trinitarians just can't give a uniform explanation.thinkerSeeking posted:Quote Trinitarians and others claim that the Hebrew noun ‘Elohim’, rendered ‘God’ (Strong’s #430) in the first clause of Genesis 1:26, denotes more than one God Person (typically thought of or explained as “3 in 1” or “2 in 1” as in “on…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote I have said I will not be further involved in these fruitless  discussions.  I do not desire to say the same thing 1000 times.Read  to comprehend rather than offer  rebuttal and you will have understood what I said about baptism on numerous occassions.Seeking, I will grant that recently you have not required baptism. But bef…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Should we take your word for this?Surely we should rather obey as the disciples did?Nick,It's not like I haven't given Scriptural support before. Just scroll back on this thread for the last two months and review all my arguments from Scripture. Now come on!thinker

Seeking said:Quote I have said in the past to you, on several occassions,  I do not “insist” that anyone be baptised – nor did Jesus.Seeking,Now I am confused. Are you saying that baptism is not required? Again you saidQuote I do not “insist” that anyone be baptized-nor did JesusYou've lost me now. I don't understand!thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,06:31)Hi tt, So you have nobody to follow.Jesus was baptised in water. His disciples baptised in water.but you have a new way?Jesus and the apostles spoke in anticipation of the “new and living way.” Baptism was necessary only during the interim period between the two covenants.thinker

Nick said:Quote Where is this trinity god taught plainly in the mouth of Jesus?Perhaps one of the prophets mentioned it?Yeah! I already pointed it out on the “goel” thread. YHWH prophetically spoke of Himself as Israel's kinsman redeemer which means “blood relative” redeemer. The Father did not become Israel's blood relative and redeemer. Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,06:05)Hi tt, Is Jesus not SON OF MAN?He is the Son of Man that came down from heaven (John 3:13). He was NOT the physical Son of Man for He was NOT conceived by a man's sperm. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit who is not a man. Therefore, He could not have had a human nature.Chew on that one for a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,06:04)Hi TT, So as a man you are a GOD?Then how is it scripture says you MAY BECOME SHARERS in the divine nature??2 Peter 1:4through which to us the most great and precious promises have been given, that through these ye may become partakers of a divine nature, having escaped from the corruption in the world in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,06:29)Hi tt, How many gods do you serve?I serve the Trinity. You know this already.thinker

Seeking said:Quote Your baggage, what was it you outlined for us, correcting of professors – Pastors – Elders – other Trinitarians, that need, does nothing to help your interpretation of the scriptures.I am sure they were no more influenced nor persuaded to change their minds because of your rhetoric than we are.I meant to say that I exhort you to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,05:45)Hi tt, Do you also now partake of the divine nature?2 Peter 1:4through which to us the most great and precious promises have been given, that through these ye may become partakers of a divine nature, having escaped from the corruption in the world in desires.Yes I am a partaker of the divine nature because I…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 17 2009,16:39)Thinker ….I think is see the problem here, You believe that where it says thus says the (Lord), the King of Israel and His redeemer the LORD of HOSTS is equating the same Person.love and peace to you and yours brother………………………………..geneGene,I noticed that you put the first reference to YHWH…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 17 2009,17:52)Hi all!Here is more Biblical evidence that Jesus is the God of the OT, YHWH.Jude 4, 5: For certain men have secretly slipped in among you – men who long ago were marked out for the condemnation I am about to describe – ungodly men who have turned the grace of our God into a license for evil and “who den…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote ………….these seven Spirits that make up (ONE Elohim) or Powers are indeed personal but they are not personal to themselves Gene, What does “personal but not personal to themselves” mean?thinker

Gene said:Quote Seeking brother, it Just how we keeping the Fathers comandments , not an issue if we should,Gene, Seeking knows this. He knows that we are not saying that Chtistians should not serve the law. But in his mind the discarding of the letter amounts to not serving the law.Gene said:Quote we keep the comandments through a new and living…[Read more]

942767 said:Quote The husband and wife are one flesh or one body just as all Christians are members of the body of Christ, one body.But no, they are two distinct individuals.Yes! The Father and the Son are one God but two distinct individuals. I have said this all along.thinker

t8 said:Quote There is no uniform belief in all things and there is not one person here that knows all things, so I think it is silly to make out that because there is no uniform decision that it somehow makes your argument the right one or even a stronger one.So when Elohim said, “let US make man in OUR image” it's all up for grabs? And if a…[Read more]

Kerwin's said: Proposed hypothesis for correct translation of Genesis 1:26 by The Thinker  Quote And the Gods said “Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness Alternative Proposed hypothesis for correct translation of Genesis 1:26 by Kerwin  Quote And the Powers said “Let US make man in our Image, after Our Likeness. Then Kerwin said:Quote [Read more]