Thinker said:Quote God is a plural one. Psalm 23 says the YHWH is the shepherd. Ezekiel says that there is one shepherd. Jesus said “I am the good shepherd.”Nick replied:Quote Hi TT,Can we add our own presumptive ideas and make useful doctrine?Here it is again Nick,Quote God is a plural one. Psalm 23 says the YHWH is the shepherd. Ezekiel says…[Read more]

Guy's surgery went well and he is in good spirits. His pain is at a minimum because he had no circulation in the foot to begin with. And I was happy to hear from his wife that the surgeons removed only his toes. But Guy told me they said that they would be removing his foot to the ankles.Anyway, I am glad for him and I am more inclined now to…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ Mar. 30 2009,09:26)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 29 2009,11:35)Why is it that the translators used “world” in only three places? (1:2; 9:26; 11:3) Could it be that they were interpreting and not really translating? Was it possible that “world” is really commentary on their part?thinkerThose of faith looked far beyond the “era” they…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Hi not3,The Spirit made me uncomfortable about the trinity idea and I became unable to defend it.Nick,The Spirit has made me uncomfortable about non-trinitarianism even more so since yesterday. So it seems that the Spirit tells you one thing and tells me another.After Marty said that the  Father “tasted death” through the person…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 31 2009,17:12)The Thinker wrote:Quote Wow man! I can't believe that you attributed to me the words “Jesus was not good.” You did not consider that people can just scroll up and view for themselves what I actually said. What were you thinking? The sentence “Jesus was not good” did not come from my lips. And no one here will…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote could have as well gone on vacation and my son complete the job alone.  When I returned from vacation my neighbor would compensate me for the completion of the agreement according to the terms regarding quality of work performed, timeleness, and completeness BEACAUSE I HAD FULL RESPONSIBILITYYou had the full responsibility only…[Read more]

Marty,You state two contradictions in your post. The first is this:Quote Jesus was obeying God in all that he did, and therefore, the whole responsibility lies with the Father.This statement is a contradiction within itself. If Jesus obeyed God in all that He did then the Father cannot have the full responsibility. It would be a shared…[Read more]

Thanks again guys.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:47)Hi TT, If Christ was in you guiding your thoughts would you teach beyond his words? He never said God was a trinity.Nick,Was Christ guiding Paul's thoughts? What did Paul mean when he said Christ is “all in all.” Gene said “Christ” is not a reference to Jesus. What do you say? Again, what did Paul mean when…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:52)Hi tt, Do you not claim to be a thinker? Ps 90 4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.Nick,Do you believe in a literal thousand year reign or not?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:46)Hi TT, But Jesus said God is ONEGod is a plural one. Psalm 23 says the YHWH is the shepherd. Ezekiel says that there is one shepherd. Jesus said “I am the good shepherd.”It's not hard to figure out.thinker

Seeking,First, I found the post inwhich LU said that “it is good to recognize the Son as God.” So I stand to be corrected. However, you did not indicate in the post who said it. You certainly contributed to the misunderstanding.Seeking said:Quote Seeking agrees to cut down a neighbors tree and takes fullresponsibilty to see to the completion of…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote The day of the Lord is a thousand yearsSo the thousand years is not literal and there is no millennium. Jesus reigned (or will reign) for only one day. You make things too easy for me Nick.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,08:44)Hi TT, Christ in us as Spirit reminds us of his words. He never mentioned a trinity. Is Christ in you?What does this have to do with Paul's statement that Christ is “all in all”?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:39)Hi TT, Was he worshiped as another god in heaven? I thought you believed in ONE God?I have said over and over and over again that I believe that God is a plural unity. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:30)Hi tt, MONOGENES does never mean the ONLY son.The word “monogenes” means “only begotten” Nick.  Isaac was not Abraham's only begotten literally. And Christ was not God's only begotten literally.thinker

Nick said:Quote If God rewarded Jesus then Jesus was not God.No trinity support there.Why not drop it?Nick,I never said that the trinity doctrine was inferred from Christ's obedience and subsequent reward. The divinity of Christ is expressed in the Scriptures which declare He existed as God before He became a servant. You know what I believe and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,09:59)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 31 2009,08:48)Seeking said:Quote Without the Father there would be no son.  As another puts it, that is reality.Seeking's statement above infers that the Holy Spirit is the literal “father” of Jesus. The physical “reality” is that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and not the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,09:13)Hi tt, The other side of truth does not include a trinity God. Scripture does not teach any such thing.Nick,Did you notice that Seeking acknowledged that the Father calls Christ “God”?Seeking said:Quote So, you can see that it is good to recognize the Son of God as “God” while at the same time recognizing…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote So, you can see that it is good to recognize the Son of God as “God” while at the same time recognizing the Father as greater than the Son and actually the Son's “God.”  The Father is the Most High God, the Son is not given that titleSeeking, I appreciate the progress you are making in reference to the Father's testimony that…[Read more]