Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2009,06:47)Hi TT,The purpose of faith is pleasing God and not just worldly things.We cannot please God by preferring the teachings of theologians over those of His son.No teaching about any trinity god was found in the mouth of the one given the Spirit of God without measure.Nick,It has been said that theology ought…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ April 09 2009,04:12)Quote (thethinker @ April 08 2009,00:03)Quote The Son of Man indeed goes as it is written of Him (Matt. 26:24)1.The Father delivered Jesus into the hands of sinners2. Sinners put Him up on a cross and killed Him3. Jesus willingly went (not dragged)Looks like shared responsibility to me.Joh 11:43-44  When he…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote I still believe that Christ was considered in the grave when it says abyss.  Note that Jonah 2:2 speaks of Johah being in the depths of Sheol yet we know he was not technically in Sheol.  These verses speak of Christ being brought up “from the dead” and in “the heart of the earth.”  So, I am not convinced that Christ was co…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Mark 10:29-3129 Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel's sake,  30 but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote BE WARNEDSeeking,See my post to Nick immediately above.thinker

Nick said:Quote Hi TT,To honour the Son you will at least elevate his words over those of carnal theologians.He never spoke of any trinity did he?Paul said that the Father has elevated Christ and given Him a name that is above every name. Paul said that at the name of Jesus “every knee should bow…to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2).…[Read more]

Seeking asked:Quote Now deal with my question, WHO SENT THE MAN, WHO PUT UP THE LIGHTENING ROD?Seeking,SINNERS put up the lightning rod!Quote The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom YOU murdered and HANGED upon a tree (Acts 5:30)and Jesus went,Quote The Son of Man indeed goes as it is written of Him (Matt. 26:24)1.The Father delivered Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2009,10:04)Hi TT, Jesus did not offer these methodologies but spoke plainly. Ought we not rather follow him?Nick,It was Seeking who brought up “methodology” Do you pay attention?Anyway, what about verse 10:Quote He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him notDoes any non trinitarian here…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ April 08 2009,06:30)Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2009,08:28)Quote And so much for Seeking's patting Texas on the back thinker statesQuote If there is a non-trinitarian on this board that has a formal Bible education and has taken courses in logic as well, then let him so identify himself.Pro 27:2  Let another praise you, and not…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote THANK YOU GOD, OUR FATHER!Jesus said,Quote Greater love has no man then this that He lay down His ife for His friendsThank you Jesus too!!Jesus also said,Quote He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent HimBe warned!!thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 08 2009,08:10)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2009,07:24)Hi WJ,Surely or prophecy about the sign of Jonah to be fulfilled Jonah had to die and be resurrected.Jonah 1 5The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head. 6I went down to the bottoms of…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Hi Thinker,The verses that you gave me about Him supposedly being alive in Hades does not say that He was alive.  I believe it simply means that His body was in the grave yet only a short time so that He did not decay.  I believe that His spirit went to the Father at the moment of His death.  He said:Luke 23:4646 And Jesus, cr…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ April 08 2009,06:46)Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2009,07:49)Quote How you can say that Christ cooperated on one side of your mouth and then say the Father took “full” responsibility on the other side is beyond me.RESPONSIBILITY–noun, plural -ties. 1.the state or fact of being responsible.2.an instance of being responsible: The r…[Read more]

Texas said:Quote Trinitarians will take this scripture out of context using only verse 1 to support the Trinity Doctrine. Seeking replied:Quote Welcome Texas.  You seem very aware of trinitarian methodology.Thank you for your solid treatment of the subject at hand.Neither Texas or Seeking have the faintest idea of triniarian “methodology.” And…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote I have insisted on his cooperative work because that is what he taught his work was; full cooperation with the Father.You have said a zillion times that the Father took “full” responsibility. Now you say that you have always insisted on Christ's cooperative work. Yet you deny that He participated in His resurrection. The fact is…[Read more]

Seeking said:Quote The Lord has convicted me that my participation in posts that containdisparaging remarks, innuendo, etc. is not reflective of one persuing Christlikeness.Seeking,Why pursue Christlikeness since He did nothing for you? Shouldn't you pursue Fatherlikeness instead? It means nothing to you that Christ was humiliated and tortured and…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Yes it is not God who died.It was the Son of God.Stop misrepresenting me Nick. I said that it was not the “Father” who died. I did not say that God didn't die. The other day I offered Acts 20:28,Quote Feed the church of GOD which HE has purchased with HIS OWN BLOODGod died for you Nick!thinker

Quote (Lightenup @ April 07 2009,09:06)Quote (thethinker @ April 06 2009,04:04)Lightenup said:Quote You ask how the Father could be the propitiation for our sins.  I don't know that it says He (the Father) was.  In 1 John 2:2 it speaks of the Son being the propitiation of our sins.LU,The Father was not the propitiation for our sins. He sent the S…[Read more]

To All,Who was beaten and tortured and spit upon? Who was humiliated and mutiliated and put to death? It was NOT the Father.Who laid down His life for the sheep? Again, it wasn't the Father.Out friend “Seeking” thinks that John 3:16 denies that Christ is the Savior because it says that “God so loved the world.” But the Scripture also says…[Read more]

Thayer Definition:Jesus = “Jehovah is salvation””Seeking” (so called) wrote:Quote 1) Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate2) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ3) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses’ successor (Act_7:45, Heb_4:8)4) Jesus, son of El…[Read more]