Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2009,07:23)Hi TT, Was he not like to us? Did he not have to overcome?He was a man and all men are weak.God's power shows up best in weak vessels. Read Job 25 remembering he was a son of Adam and born of womanNick,Hebrews 7 contradicts you. God gave us a high priest that was without weakness. It is tue that Jesus was…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote That's it? That is your concept of rebuttal?No wonder the trinity doctrine is in retreat all across the world.Care to debate Monotheism? One on one?I don't anticipate too many anti-trinitarians supporting your idea God is an “it” and that creation came into being by an “it”. And yes, I am willing to debate Monotheism so long as…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote It doesn't matter if the apostles were teaching my view or the gospel writers.  The main thing is that GOD was teaching us His truth when He made the claim with a voice from heaven that Jesus was HIS Son and He made that claim way before the resurrection and several times too and in front of witnesses.  It is God's testimony t…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote God's testimony that the Christ is His Son, which was given for most of these verses, long before His resurrection:Mat 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my one dear Son; in him I take great delight.”Mar 1:11 And a voice came from heaven: “You are my one dear Son; in you I take great delight.”Luk 9:35 Then a voice c…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 01 2009,10:19)Thinker…….Because GOD'S words indwells someone doesn't make that person a GOD, that is a TRINITARIAN assumption. When a person Has been given and recieved GOD'S words GOD is IN that person via His words, as He was in Christ Jesus, but being in someone does not make that someone the Almighty GOD himself , even…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote I didn't say that Jesus didn't “love” I said Jesus said he was not of the world and God said that God loved the world.He loved his own who were in the world who were the Lost sheep of the House of Israel.bd,You are now contradicting yourself. You originally said that God was the Savior because He loved the world. Now you say…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ May 30 2009,11:17)Thinker ………..Look up the word existed in a Greek translation, you will find it says (EXISTING) a present tense word NOT a Past tense  word as Trinitarians would like us to believe. The over all point is why do you and other have to try so hard to try to get scripture to say what in fact it specifically does…[Read more]

Georg said:Quote God the Father planed the creation, He, in his foresight knew we humans would sin, and would need a savior.The son, after the Father explained the plan to him, volunteered to become that sacrifice for our sins. So, yes, Jesus became the willing sacrifice, but it was the Father that offered him up for our sins.Georg,There is not…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 01 2009,15:19)Thinker………Maybe this will help, “GOD so loved the World that (HE GAVE) His uniquely begotten son that who so every believes in Him should not parish, GOD the FATHER gave Him to DEATH  for the forgiveness of our Sins. Or don't you believe Jesus was the LAMB of GOD. Being the Lamb of GOD does not mean the Lamb…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker…………Jesus offered up Himself in (OBEDIENCE) to the WILL of GOD , Not will of HIMSELF. “Remember” Not (MY) Will but thy WILL be done.  So if it wasn't his will then obviously it had to be the will of someone else, right?. Thinker brother you need to dump this trinitarian Ideology . That doctrine is so full of Holes…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Jesus is ever such a priest unto God.He is not also that God unto Whom he is priest tt.Nick,Earlier this month Gene said that God gets the full credit for being SAVIOR because God offered the sacrifice. But the Bible says that Jesus offered up Himself. So by Gene's own rule Jesus is God and Savior. I'll say it again. Gene said that…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker ……….The Sacrifice i am meaning is Jesus acting as a High Priest like Aron . but instead of Him offering up a lamb to GOD as Aron did He offered Up Himself , TO GOD. as the sacrifice, For our sins. This in no way imply Jesus was(the GOD) that offered up Himself as a GOD HIMSELF. Don't know where you are getting that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2009,08:55)Hi TT, Jesus is the eternal High Priest unto God. He is not also that God. He is our mediator with God. He does not mediate with himself. Trinity is an offensive human addition to the written truthNick,As usual you missed the point. Gene said that it is God who offered the sacrifices. So by Gene's own rule…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus never said he loved the worldbd,So you deny that Jesus loved you. But Jesus said,Quote Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends (John 15:13)Jesus laid down His life for you. Ergo….Bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus never said he loved the worldThe apostle John said that Jesus loved,Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2009,06:36)Hi TT, Jesus told us true worshipers worship the Father. He was not his own father was he?. He did not worship himself.The Father is worshipped through worshipping Jesus. He who does not worship Jesus does not worship the Father,Quote Let all the angels of God worship Him (Heb. 1:6)thinker

Paladin said:Quote John 1:3 All things were egeneto by it; and without it was egeneto nothinge that was gegonen .  You are a joke.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2009,06:57)Hi TT, God offers no sacrifices for sin. He cannot sin so why would He?To who would God offer sacrifice?Nick,You should be saying this to Gene.thinker

Quote (Gene @ May 31 2009,15:53)Thinker……..Ask yourself  what is a High Priest? Isn't he a person who (represent) GOD , but He himself is not a GOD, Just the (Representative) of HIM. No more than Aron the High Priest was a GOD.  That along should help explain to you that Jesus is not a GOD HIMSELF> How many simple scriptures so clearly w…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus Christ is the instrument of Salvation but it is God who is the actual Saviour for he sent Jesus because He so loved the world.Titus 2:13 states explicitly and undeniably that Jesus Christ is the Savior. And if “God” and “Savior” are not the same as Gene says then Titus 2:13 denies that God is Savior. Gene's “grammar”…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote I worked up a response to your query and when I went to post it, it would not post. I was notified I had to “log in.” When I tried to log in, I was told there is no “Paladin” registered.I then received an e-mail notifying me my registration has been “cancelled” but I can re-register if I want to.I have done so, but am no longer…[Read more]