WorshippingJesus said:Quote No you can say that “We” plural are the light of the world, but we are not the source of that light. Jesus is, which is proof of his Deity!Amen WJ! Jesus is called the true light. This means that there is no light other than Him. This in turn means that Jesus is God!God bless,thinker

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,The main thing in the Sonship of Christ is that throughout His existence, He has been the Son of GOD in every step whether it be as one who GOD created through or as the one who GOD revealed Himself to man through or as the one who calls us brethren because He was the first of many of the sons of the resurrection.…[Read more]

bodhitharts said:Quote This is what I meant by literary deviceUsage Note: Traditionally the pronouns he, him, and his have been used as generic or gender-neutral singular pronouns, as in A novelist should write about what he knows best and No one seems to take any pride in his work anymore. Since the early 20th century, however, this usage has…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote John 9:5 (New International Version)4 As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” This statement clearly shows that Jesus did not consider himself God, otherwise he would have said that he is always the light of…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote All of humanity, including Jesus, were born as infants in innocence.  The difference is that all of humanity except Jesus yielded to temptation.Marty,Paul said that Adam's original sin was imputed to his progeny,Quote For as by one man's disobedience the many were made sinnersMen are born guilty.Marty said:Quote The infirmity of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2009,21:02)Hi TT, Is fellowship with deception of eternal value?To fellowship with the Father and the Son abide in the Word.Then find a church that fellowships without deception. The Scripture says to “forsake not the assembling of yourselves together”. Isolationism is destructive to the soul.thinker

Paladin said:Quote Love is a “this” not an “it.”But a person loves. You're a hoot man! thinker

WorshippingJesus said:Quote So since you think you know more than the 100s or even thousands of Hebrew, Greek scholars, Theologians, and Commentators, then please at least tell us what credentials you have, or what Theological Degrees, Biblical Greek or Hebrew degrees do you have.Yeah pd…Show us your credentials. I am still waiting for Gene to…[Read more]

Gene,Where are you? I asked you to give us your credentials on the Greek in Titus 2:13. What is your basis for contradicting the textbooks? Or are you going to avoid my question like one would the plague?thinker  

Paladin said:Quote AND, Jesus denied being our God; John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ASCEND UNTO my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and YOUR GOD.So, WHATEVER Thomas was declaring, it was NOT that Jesus was God. I believe John tells it best,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 02 2009,13:11)Thinker…….GOD is SPIRIT (intellect)…The LORD GOD. is not a man that he should lie, or a son of man that He should repent. But the Lord Said it repented Him that He had made man upon the earth. Go figure that out and you will have your answer. There is a difference between the word GOD and LORD, without…[Read more]

Marty,Hebrews clearly teaches that Christ offered up Himself. John 3:16 means that God provided the sacrifice. There is a difference. If God Himself offered up sacrifices then He rejected them in Malachi. This doesn't make sense.thinker

Nick said:Quote The trinity deceit costs far more souls.Folk do not know who God is, who to worship and who to pray to.Nick,That's ridiculous Nick. Trinitarians go to church and are a community. But this site openly says, “We do not go to church. We are the church.” Which is more destructive to souls. Trinitarian community or this site's…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote I didn't say God was an it I said that God was beyond gender.bd,Thanks for clarifying this. You gave the impression you were denying the personality of God like Paladin. Why did you say “literary device” after I clarified that “he” simply means that God is a person? Paladin is a nut case. God is love and an “it” does not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2009,13:50)Hi TT, The resurrection was the proof that Jesus was the Son of God, whom he claimed to be, and that ps2 spoke of.Nick,Hebrews 5 clearly says that Christ was begotten as Son AFTER He had learned obedience through suffering. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2009,11:04)Hi TT, So he was not God but the Saviour God gave us? A man like us in all ways except sin. An overcomer.Nick,Titus 2:13 says that Jesus Christ is God and Savior. See the Titus 2:13 thread in “Truth or tradition”.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2009,11:07)Hi TT, So God is the Father and God of Jesus? That clears up the trinity misconception.Nick, Here we have Paladin and bd saying things that God is an “it” and a “literary device” and you let them slide? God is not “father” to Jesus in the sense you think.thinker

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,This passage asks a question asking what angels He said thus and so to.  This passage is not telling anyone that on that day this question was asked was the same day He was begotten.Heb 1:55 For to which of the angels did He ever say, “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU”? And again, “I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Two anti-trinitarians who support my understanding are John and Jesus.If Jesus believed God was impersonal then why did He call God His “Father”?  And why would He pray to an “it”? I will discuss Monotheism with you on the premise that we both are speaking about a personal God. Otherwise I am not interested and this will be my…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote God is not a Male or Female, He is not physical, we say “He” as a literary device not as a biological description.The Bible said that God made man in His image Male and Female. So the fact is that Mankind is composed of two types of men, Males who have no womb and woman or a wombed Man.Man just like Manna came from God but…[Read more]