Marty said:Quote The scripture does not state that Christ had no weaknesses.  It states that he was tempted every way just as we were and yet without sin.Marty,You're in denial good friend. The Scripture states that men with weakness  were appointed by law. Christ was NOT appointed by law. Therefore, Christ had no weakness. You infer that He had w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,13:04)Hi tt, Do you think Jesus was God and then not God and later exalted to be God again?Nick,This is what the Scriptures clearly say. Paul said that Christ existed in the form of God and then made Himself nothing and became obedient unto the death of the cross. Then it says that He was exalted as God again as a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2009,12:09)Hi TT, We should not side with the opinions of his enemies.So the apostle John is now an enemy of Christ. You anti-trinitarians stop at nothing.thinker

Gene said:Quote Irene……… Do you KNOW what SPIRIT (IS)?. And JESUS SAID THE WORDS WERE (NOT) HIS WORDS.Gene,As usual you take things out of context. Jesus later said that truth was His as well as it was the Father's,Quote I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2009,21:03)Hi TT, Which part do you find not aligned with scripture? That he was a man or as a man was by your definition born guilty?Acts 2.22-231Tim2.5 etcYou're playing games Nick.thinker

Paladin said:Quote “Therefore, the Jews sought all the more to kill him because He had not only broken the sabbath, but said also that God was His own Father making Himself EQUAL with God” (John 5:18)….So at his trial, the Jews agree with Jesus about what his words meant.But the thinker agrees with the Jews accusation which they later retracted…[Read more]

Mandy said:Quote God was his Father from birth, not from the Jordan only.Mandy,Hebrews 1 says that God “will be” a Father from the point of Christ's exaltation. It is clear. It says also that before His exaltation Jesus was lower than the angels. If God was Christ's Father from birth as you say, then when was Christ ever lower than the…[Read more]

Mandy said:Quote God was his Father from birth, not from the Jordan only.Mandy,Hebrews 1 says that God “will be” a Father from the point of Christ's exaltation. It is clear. It says also that before His exaltation Jesus was lower than the angels. If God was Christ's Father from birth as you say, then when was Christ ever lower than the…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 03 2009,05:53)Hi Thinker,I can see how you are getting your theory.  But I wonder, if Jesus had to earn his title as son, what was the whole virgin birth thing?  Why was Jesus considered “Lord” at his birth?  Surely, with a title such as this, “sonship” would be automatic?Love,MandyMandy,Jesus was announced as Savior from Hi…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 03 2009,05:53)Hi Thinker,I can see how you are getting your theory.  But I wonder, if Jesus had to earn his title as son, what was the whole virgin birth thing?  Why was Jesus considered “Lord” at his birth?  Surely, with a title such as this, “sonship” would be automatic?Love,MandyMandy,Jesus was announced as Savior from Hi…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote I have at least the same credentials as those whom God chose to present his word in the first place. They were “unlearned and ignorant men.” WJ replied:Quote Look again, 2 thirds of the NT was written by a man who was trained by the best of his day.WJ,Exactly! And even those who were “ignorant men” received direct revelation…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding…[Read more]

Quote The words you quote in Hebrews are from the OT.God is not truly a name any more than LORD is.To hold to trinity theory you must always see Jesus as God.Why do you take on yourself the right to ascribe special meanings?The author to the Hebrews says that Jesus has a name that is “more excellent” than the angels. That name is “begotten Son”,…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Sonship actually establishes order of geneology, not equality. Not in Jewish thought. The Son was seated at the right hand of the Father which was a position of equality in Hebrew culture. Christ is the Son of God BY NAME ONLY and not by generation. It hasn't squat to do with “order of geneaology.” Jesus EARNED the name “Son of…[Read more]

To Gene:Where are you bro? You were called upon to give your Greek credentials. Please give your basis for contradictng the Greek textbooks on Titus 2:13. Or am I asking too much here?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2009,21:05)Hi TT, God calls men and angels gods so what is your point?The god of this world is another that comes to mind.Nick,I have made the point already but you are not listening. The Father called Jesus “God” AFTER His exaltation to His right hand. The name “God” in reference to Jesus is a name that is SUPERIOR to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2009,05:15)Hi TT, Jesus was a man according to scripture. Born guilty?Blasphemy!thinker

Quote (Cindy @ June 03 2009,10:57)You know if all would understand that God is a tittle, then you would not have so many problems. The Father did call Jesus God in Hebrew.  We should know, that the Father is greater then the Son, and above all.  Ephesians 4:6 one Father of all, who is above all, and in you all.  There is no trinity, you cannot pr…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Good grief Keith,one Most High GODone Son from the Most High GOD who shares the nature of His Father making Him God from GOD.The wisdom, power, purpose, nature, direction etc. all trickles down from ONE-the Most High GOD.  It trickles down from Him through His Son.GOD the Father, the source is ONE and the Son is a true Son…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote What light comes from true light?  Is it false light or is it true light?  It is true light.  You see, to be the true light doesn't necessarily mean that He is the utimate source of light.  If the Son was from the true light, He would also reflect the true light.  Is GOD the Father of true lights or false lights?  The answe…[Read more]