bodhitharta said:Quote I am not anti-trinitarian, if it were true I would be the first to promote it as the truth.You lost me!bodhitharta said:Quote Hebrews 1:7-9 (King James Version)8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9Thou hast loved righteousness, and…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote As you can see in verse 14 Paul continues his sentence by telling us who it is that is going to appear…Jesus Christ, “WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO REDEEM US”!!!Is this terminology used of the Father anywhere in scriptures?WJ,Excellent bro! Even I overlooked verse 14. I hope Unitarian hermeneutics aren't rubbing off on me…[Read more]

Meerkat said:Quote Thinker,I do not deny that Jesus is our Saviour  –  Because Jesus is our Saviour does not mean that God is not the Saviour of mankind. He is saving mankind through his mediator – the man Jesus  whom he has raised to his right hand. See 1 Tim 2:3-5 God is our Saviour, he has raised up Jesus from the dead for that purpose, to sa…[Read more]

Paladin wrote:Quote Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman? 5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. 6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?Divine WORMS? Is the son of a worm divine?To All,Let's see if…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote What are you talking about the scripture doesn't say Elijah went up to heaven by himself it says that The Lord took him “into” heavenbd,Are you serious? I assumed you would know that “no man can come to the Father but through me” was a reference to Christ's work on the cross. I marvel that I find myself explaining this to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 10 2009,16:54)The Thinker wrote:Quote The Father called the Son “God.”The Father called those who received the law “gods”.Hi Kerwin,In the context the term “God” in reference to Christ means that His name is “so much better” than the angels and that the angels are commanded to worship Him (vs.4-6). So the word “god” (small g)…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 10 2009,04:33)thinker   You should read on, the head of Christ is God.  No trinity here or in Ephiasians 4:6, that is what I want to stress.Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,The verse that says that God is the head of Christ is not in Ephesians but in 1 Corinthians 11. In its context it says also that the man is the head of the w…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Psalm 89:5-7 (Darby Translation)5And the heavens shall celebrate thy wonders, O Jehovah, and thy faithfulness in the congregation of the saints. 6For who in the heaven can be compared to Jehovah? among the sons of the mighty shall be likened to Jehovah? Why does it say “who” in the heaven? If there are no residents?Also Why…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote They were not saying he blaphemed because he called himself the Son of Man but because he was claiming the right hand of Powerbodhitharta then said: Quote Son of Man simply means mankind, children of Adam. I have already given numerous examples of this but for the sake of argument I will give a few here again:They accused…[Read more]

Bodhitharta wrote:Quote 2 Kings 2:10-12 (King James Version)11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 2 Kings 21 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a…[Read more]

Bodhitharta,Quote Trinitarian beliefs are anti-Christian as they deny Christ his rightful position as Christ and attempt to elevate Christ to God Himself.The office of Christ is not that of Godbd,You grossly misrepresent trinitarianism. The “Christ” of God was exalted to His right hand which was a position of equality. Even many anti-trinitarians…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 10 2009,04:19)Thinker………Author means the one who wrote the book. Doesn't mean He is the BOOK. Jesus wrote the book (so to speak), by becoming the (FIRST) of man kind to MAKE IT of all of mankind. He know how to get us saved and we must do it the same way he did, by total reliance of GOD the FATHER as He did. In this sense…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote BTW, Jesus did not get charged for blasphemy for saying he was the son of man. Let me make this clear: You are completely incorrect….bd,You are only partially correct. Jesus was charged with blasphemy for making Himself the Son of God and ALSO for making Himsef the Son of Man. When He claimed to be the Son of Man Caiaphas…[Read more]

Bodhitharta siad:Quote Elijah ascended up to heaven alive just like Jesus and so did Enoch.If the sabbath was made for man then Man is the lord of it.The Law was made for Man too but the scripture says that the Law was made for Law breakers.The Bible no where says that Elijah and Enoch ascended into heaven. Jesus said that no man had ascended into…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2009,20:14)Hi TT, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. God saves through Jesus.Nick,The end result was that Christ became the AUTHOR of eternal salvation,Quote And having been perfected He became the AUTHOR of eternal salvation to all who obey Him (Heb. 5:9)God was in Christ reconciling the world to…[Read more]

Meerkat said:Quote It seems to me that in Titus 1:4  that there is reference to God the Father distinct from  Jesus our Saviour   in other places we are told that God is our Saviour   that does not mean that they are the same person or that one and not the other is our saviour – to me it seems that God is our Saviour and he is saving us THR…[Read more]

Paladin said to thinker:Quote YOUR PROBLEM comes from the fact you know nothing of the use of pronouns in scripture, and you thought you know it all.I took two years of Greek in College. I have a sound working knowledge of Greek pronouns. How did you acquire your credentials?Paladin said:Quote Stop with your lies about what I believe. I will tell…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2009,20:18)Hi TT, The head of man is Christ. The head of Christ is God.No trinity in those scriptural truthsYou said it. The head of man is Christ. Are you starting to catch on Nick?thinker

Quote (Gene @ June 09 2009,16:08)Thinker……..I love you brother, but you are completely wrong about the TRINITY, Believe what Jesus plainly said (THOU) someone other then himself, are the (ONLY) no other, TRUE GOD.  Come out of those false teachings brother, GO and read the man of sin, thread i posted maybe that will help brother, and think…[Read more]

David,If the terms “God” and “Savior” are to be distinguished as you say then Paul denies that God is the Savior at the same time he denies that Jesus is God. You need only a course in Logic 101 to comprehend this. But you want to make it a matter of having a degree in rocket science.Either confess Jesus is God or deny that God is Savior.thinker