Quote (Cindy @ June 29 2009,07:10)Quote (thethinker @ June 29 2009,05:00)Quote (frankandcathy @ June 28 2009,16:14)This is a question about Colossians 1:19.It seems that the original text (from my understanding) says, “For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.”The words “of the deity” or “of God” or “of the Godhead” were…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote So, if the fulness of the Godhead dwelled in Jesus bodily then wouldn't  that mean that ALL of God died on the cross and yet he called out to GOD?So you believe that after God cried to himself not to let himself be killed God decided to let himself fully die and then he asked himself why he forsook himself and when he was…[Read more]

Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 01 2009,02:09)Nick, What good is the death of Jesus if all he was was a man and a vessel? If it was not God willingly sacrificing himself to pay for the sins of his people, then what good was his death? All he was then was a good man who was forced to do a good work. You diminish Jesus.TC27TC27,I couldn't have…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 30 2009,09:44)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ June 29 2009,09:32)Nick,Yes, that verse says that God reconciled the world to himslef in Christ. Yes, I will agree that God was in Christ. However Scripture blatantly says in Titus 2:13 “while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious appearing of our great God AND Savior, Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 29 2009,22:06)Hey thinker: Good stuff. When scriptures are quoted that are easy to understand and people defiantly refuse to change their doctrine, it tells me that they really don't want to know the Truth of God. I wanted to give an opinion on the abomination of desolation question. In Daniel 12:11 is says,…”from the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 30 2009,17:39)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2009,19:43)Hi BD, We do not know your god.Our God is the Father of Jesus.Well, that's weird becuase My God is The God of Jesus aren't they the same God or is the scripture not right when Jesus says that he has a God and that God is the God of all flesh?Allah is not the god of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 30 2009,16:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2009,15:50)Hi BD, Why do you not believe it and prefer the words of strangers?I do believe it and quote it often, but when I do you assume to be superior to it. Thinker does the same as you he says prove it and then I provide the scriptures and then he like you attack me instead…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2009,10:27)Hi TC, So God became nothing? Not my God.Nick,Then Jesus loved you more than your “God.”thinker

bodhitharta said to TC27:Quote Just to let you know, humility and humbleness requires you to empty yourself. Yes he was humble of his free will as he was also obedient of his free will just like you are obedient of your free will, You choose your position as a servant of God too.But then you say Christ was exalted because of the choices he made.…[Read more]

bodhitharta said to TC27:Quote Christ must offend you as well because he never believed in a trinity. In all his teachings never once did he say anyone or anything else was God except his Father, but I guess many know more about Christ than Christ himself, right?There is a grave and terrible evil that doesn't believe the words of Jesus because of…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,I just want to point out that Jesus was literally begotten of “man.”  The Greek for “man” here is Strong's #444 anthropos:NT:444 a&nqrwpo$anthropos (anth'-ro-pos); from NT:435 and ops (the countenance; from NT:3700); man-faced, i.e. a human beingSo, unless Mary was from another planet, she who had begotten Him was a…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote First Paul says:Romans 15:7-9 (King James Version)8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: Then Paul says:Galatians 6:14-16 (King James Version)15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote First Paul says:Romans 15:7-9 (King James Version)8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: Then Paul says:Galatians 6:14-16 (King James Version) 15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote I called it an aspect, I did not say YOU called it an aspect.I did not say that you said I called it an “aspect.”First you said:Quote First of all, I was talking about one aspect of the person, Wisdom. Then YOU introduced another aspect, Prov 8-9, which I said does not prove she is a person, it proves she is personified. I…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote You did not ask me if wisdom was a person. You asked me if Prov 8-9 makes wisdom a person. I said no, that (prov 8-9) makes wisdom personified.Prov 8:22-31 makes wisdom a person.Gen 1:26 makes wisdom a person.Prove what you say.thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 30 2009,10:53)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 30 2009,10:13)Quote (thethinker @ June 29 2009,19:36)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 29 2009,18:15)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2009,06:00)Hi BD, The glory of man's words? They have no glory and they undermine the precious words of the Living God.The Quran is the Word of The Living…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote If you believe the bible is infallible then you must believe Paul when he says he uses deception.Jesus doesn't use deception but Paul brags about it so according to the Bible itself Paul deceives. Don't you agree with Paul? Is Paul lying about himself?To All,There you have it. Bodhitharta says that Paul used deception in his…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote First of all, I was talking about one aspect of the person, Wisdom. Then YOU introduced another aspect, Prov 8-9, which I said does not prove she is a person, it proves she is personified.Paladin,I did not introduce another so called “aspect” of wisdom. It is you who is dividing it into “aspects.” You tried to make the case that…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote I keep telling you all that Hebrews 1:8-9 is not a quote from God, it was a quote from a psalms poet speaking about a King, notice Paul does not cite his source. But Jesus always cites the source of an old testament verse he will say Isaiah said or Moses said or even quote what God told Moses but Paul did not do that he…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote God anointed resurrected Elohim. All men who are resurrected are Elohim. That does not make them God, nor equal to God.Paladin,To how many “resurrected Elohim” did God say this, Quote You, Lord, has from the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of YOUR hands (vs. 10)thinker