Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2009,10:35)Hi JOdi, Is the purpose of scripture the defence of your beliefs?You are no different Nick. Take the beam out of your own eye.thinker

Quote (Stu @ July 03 2009,17:48)The purpose of scripture is to provide a security blanket for insecure people.StuartWhat is your “security blanket” Stu?thinker

Paladin said:Quote And I say he is YOUR attack dog because you are not making suggestions until it appears in his posts to you. You are jumping to his tune.Show me chronological proof where WJ suggested that I request you post links and I jumped to his tune and did that. Your memory is failing you. I requested you post sources FIRST. After that WJ…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote No, an honest man would have no problem with an honest and timely request prior to setting up the debate. Instead of getting honest and timely requests, I am getting your responses from your attack dog. Call him off. He refused to debate, but just can't seem to keep his big mouth shut.That is about as cowardly as it…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote I set it up. So quit talking about it.The time to agree on rules is prior to setting it up.Paladin,I don't see a thread in the “Debates” forum for you and me. So it's not set up. But go ahead. If you were a gracious man you would agree to the rule because it is reasonable and not deny it because you think it was suggested late.…[Read more]

Quote Are you saying that Jesus revealed to Paul to disregard his own teachings, lie, and make pretense with anyone to win them over?If what you say is true then you have lied on me and so has nick so did you lie on God?Now you know that no guile was found in Jesus but you actually say that Jesus revealed to paul to use Guile?bd, Paul said,Quote Bu…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2009,07:17)Hi TC, Explained? No you have no explained anything except to your own satisfaction, neither have you explained how God is with God and yet the two 'gods' are one God.Trinity is an unstable human construct not taught in scripture yet men who do not fear God bravely propound it.Nick,But at least TC explains.…[Read more]

Quote Thinker,Have you ever really read the words of Paul? he says:Romans 7:16-18 (King James Version)16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote However you  are mistaken pertaining to “us”As ELOHIM OF US is simply saying “Our God” in other words the plural pronoun is relating to who's God it is i.e. “Our” God.bd,You got me on the word “us.” I clearly read it wrong. I was thinking of Genesis 3:22 when I read that. Quote Behold! The man has become as one of US to…[Read more]

Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 03 2009,06:05)Quote (thethinker @ July 02 2009,09:59)bodhitharta said:Quote Deuteronomy 6:3-5 (Young's Literal Translation)3`And thou hast heard, O Israel, and observed to do, that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest multiply exceedingly, as Jehovah, God of thy fathers, hath spoken to thee, the land…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Deuteronomy 6:3-5 (Young's Literal Translation)3`And thou hast heard, O Israel, and observed to do, that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest multiply exceedingly, as Jehovah, God of thy fathers, hath spoken to thee, the land flowing with milk and honey. 4`Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God one Jehovah; That is the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2009,05:28)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,22:24)Hi GM, If you are one with him you are one with the world as he freely admits.Isn't lying a sin? so why are you so freely lying on me and using Paulian tactics to to attack me instead of my statements. I have never said I am one with the world but that was very worldly…[Read more]

Quote (Cato @ July 02 2009,02:43)Perhaps the plural refers to other gods of a lesser nature?  Elohim are not angels so who are they? We have had discussions on evidence of henotheism in the OT before.Gen 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,…”Ps 82:1  God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the “…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Cursed he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, …Jeremiah 48:10If Paul is cursed then why do you call on his writings that you think disprove the trinity? If Paul was dishonest as you say then why does he tell us he is dishonest? A dishonest man does not say “I have tricked you.” You're not applying any common…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 03 2009,05:10)Quote (thethinker @ July 02 2009,20:22)Quote (gollamudi @ July 02 2009,18:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 02 2009,16:33)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2009,00:30)Hi WJ, But of course he was his own God, the one spoken of in Heb 1, Jn20 was he?He is the son of God is he not?NHOf course he is the Son of God!…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 02 2009,23:26)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 02 2009,08:33)Great! Will you agree to providing the sources we each use for the biblical languages for the sake of those who want to verify what we say?thinkerHi JackPlagerism should also be a reason for disqualification!IMOWJWJ, if you can´t win fair and square in a debate, please do…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 03 2009,01:57)Thinker……..Plagiarizing  has nothing to do with anything, we all have learned by other sources through out or lives, what we take in as truth becomes part of our thinking and that even goes with the bible. Using the term plagiarizing is only a cop out to divert attention from subject matter, who cares where…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ July 02 2009,22:04)thinker   Did I deny that Jesus is God?  I didn't.  So if Jesus is called God, does that make them a trinity?  No.  Why, because the Father is above all. Ephesians 4:6   But even Jesus Himself said that His Father is greater then Jesus.  Why do you still insist that the trinity is true.Also like I said before…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ July 02 2009,20:59)You are  mistaken brother thinker. Shema of Israel never talks about two Gods or two Lords. It talks about one and only LORD(Adonai) God. Here the mistake is on the part of the translators on Det 6:4. Here the Hebrew word for Lord is YHWH which is used only for God alone not for Messiah my Lod. The english…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote The serpent being “ancient” does not mean that is when he was bound. It simply means that he is Old or goes back to the begining of the creation, or the garden.WJ,Did you note how precise the vision was that the apostle John received? Why the reference to satan as “ancient serpent?” And why was there no satancic…[Read more]