Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2009,04:57)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,03:51)Nick,I posted this information merely to show that the name “elohim” is regarded as plural and the Hebrew “echad” (one) indicates a complex unity in Deuteronomy 6:4. On the Echad thread bodhitharta himself appears to affirm that echad refers to a “composite…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 07 2009,05:21)Hi BDQuote (bodhitharta @ July 06 2009,12:49)He says only his Father can do that.He says no such thing, in fact he doesnt even mention the Father in the verse.but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.” MK 10:40Jesus statement i…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote You said that Jesus is the Father (God) but here you have a huge problem to explain because Jesus tells his disciples that he cannot give them a position to the right or left of him because thay are not his to give.I NEVER SAID THAT JESUS IS THE FATHERthinker

bodhitharta said:Quote Matthew 2023And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. I would appreciate a concession please.Now what were you…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus says here clearly that he still wouldn't have the power to decide who would be to his left or right. He actually says it is not mine to give.This should teach you a lotbd,Jesus had not been exalted yet when He said that. You prove nothing.thinker

bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus himself said that The Father was THE ONLY TRUE GOD. Do you believe what Jesus said or was Jesus mistaken?John 173 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.These…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote 1 Corinthians 1550 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Third of All God is a Spirit, do spirits have blood now?Rev 1:17 does not say anything about being God, Jesus was the first and last born of a virgin but that doesn't make him…[Read more]

bodhitharta said;Quote Yes, God cannot lie but that quote in Hebrews was not spoken by God nor was it attributed to be God speaking as I have shown you several times it was not a prophecy it was a poet speaking on the greatnest of his king.bd,You have shown me nothing because I reject the Quran.thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2009,05:21)Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 06 2009,23:18)I try my bestJesus told you to worship the One who sent him but you won't?Jesus told Mary that he was going to My God and Your God, Why don't you believe Jesus when he said he was going to his God?Does Jesus have a God?bd,And He told us that we…[Read more]

Paladin said to WJ:Quote “Showed?” Or “CLAIMED?” I musta missed something. Show me from scripture,  not from commentaries.Paladin,You were given examples from the Scriptures. Lexographers and commentaries were used as secondary support. So why won't you answer the examples? Moses said, “The TWO shall become ONE flesh.” And Elohim said, “They are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,06:37)Hi TT, So who was sent by the Lord God and His Spirit?Clearly the one who was loved and will prosper was not the Lord God.Nick,The One who was sent by the Lord God and His Spirit is He who called Israel as is people, and who calls Himself the First and the Last in verse 12. He is the One who created the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 07 2009,07:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2009,15:31)Hi WJ, Your false doctrine presses thorns in the head of Christ.So If Jesus gives glory to his God in what way is that equality? If he has equality with God then you proclaim two equal gods. God is one.HI NHYea right? You really think anyone can put thorns in…[Read more]

Thinker said to Paladin:Quote It is you who misread the Scriptures. Read them carefully please! John said that the Jews wanted to kill Him for calling God His own Father. Then he adds, “making Himself equal with God.” That part of the statement “making Himself equal with God” is John's commentary on what Jesus said. Paladin replied:Quote Wrong!That…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,07:31)Hi WJ, Your false doctrine presses thorns in the head of Christ.So If Jesus gives glory to his God in what way is that equality? If he has equality with God then you proclaim two equal gods. God is one.Nick,Philippians 2 is not about Jesus giving glory to God. It is about men confessing the name of Jesus to…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 07 2009,06:12)Quote (thethinker @ July 06 2009,20:35)Paladin said:Quote It is a lie foisted on the minds of religious zealots by overly religious commentators whose function in life is to make Jesus more than he really is.God has exalted Jesus and has given Him a name that is above every name that at the name of Jesus every…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote To be at God´s right hand side is neither below or above, but next to him. Next to who? God of course.t8,You told TC that the Revelation blows her “theory” right out of the water. Then you go and blow up yourself with your statement above. You said that Christ's position at God's right hand is “neither below or above”. This is what…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Can God Himself die for you or anyone else?bd,Acts 20:28 says this,Quote Feed the church of God which He has purchased with His own bloodAnd,Quote Be not afraid; I am the First and the last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore Amen (Rev. 1:17)These dispel your Gnostic belief that God cannot…[Read more]

Nick,I posted this information merely to show that the name “elohim” is regarded as plural and the Hebrew “echad” (one) indicates a complex unity in Deuteronomy 6:4. On the Echad thread bodhitharta himself appears to affirm that echad refers to a “composite unity.”thinker

Quote (Paladin @ July 06 2009,22:37)Quote (thethinker @ July 06 2009,20:29)Paladin said:Quote Yet YOU take the side of the accusing Jews. Wonder why that is. Oh, right, trinitarian. Don't require evidence, just testimony of unbelieving Jews who changed their testimony at his trial.It was John who actually said that Jesus made Himself equal with…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote So you no longer believe God is comprised of three persons?Quote  Yahweh was different from the false Supreme Ones of the heathen, which were worshipped as one being represented by several persons. Yahweh is one Yahweh — not two, not three.  So now you agree that to present God as three persons means you worship a false s…[Read more]