Paladin said:Quote I have yet to find a reference to “unified one.”Then your head is buried in the sand. Let the record show that you could not (or did not as you say) refute the two examples you were given.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,21:21)Hi TT, BD believes in what his book teaches. You teach from outside of our book.“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” These were John's opening words in reference to Jesus. I guess John teaches “outside” his book too.thinker

Quote (Paladin @ July 07 2009,21:35)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 07 2009,13:53)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 06 2009,14:29)Quote (942767 @ July 07 2009,10:13)Hi WJ and thethinker:Are you saying that in his position as head of the church, Jesus is not subjected to the Father?Love in Christ,MartyThey don't believe that God is the head of Christ.…[Read more]

Paladin cites ATR:Quote In the indicative, indeed, in the past, three tenses appear, in the present two, in the future one (sometimes two). In the other modes as a rule only three tenses are found; in truth, in the subjunctive, optative, and imperative practically only two are in common usage, the aorist and the present.Note that ATR said that in…[Read more]

Irene said to TC27:Quote The trinity doctrine is a man made doctrine not a Godly doctrine.Bodhitharta believes in Allah and says that Paul was a deceiver and a false prophet. Yet she picks only on TC27. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,19:51)Hi TT, So Jesus was sent. A servant of God.Here we go round the mulberry bush…for the millionth time.Yes we know Nick. You have told us a thousand times and we have never denied it. We have all asserted this. Would you like to talk about Jesus at the present who is King of King and Lord of lords? Or do you…[Read more]

Irene said to TC27,Quote So, did you prove it.  No! There is no trinity doctrine.by Jesus own words He said that the Father is greater then He.In Ephesians 4:6  ….one God and Father of all, who is above all and in us all.  There are other Scriptures in the O.T. but these 2 Scriptures are the best once. IMOThe trinity doctrine is a man made do…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 07 2009,14:03)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 07 2009,13:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2009,19:44)Hi TC, So Jesus is God and a trinity god, including Jesus, is in Christ?I am losing countNick, Why is this so hard? The Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit are three persons existing in ONE God. That makes THREE persons.…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Paladin:Quote No the claiming Greek part is all you have been parading. You are the one that claims to know more than the translators and “Strong” and A.T. Robertson.and “every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father”. Phil 2:11It doesnt take Greek to know that our tongues will confess that…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2009,09:47)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,08:23)bodhitharta said;Quote Yes, God cannot lie but that quote in Hebrews was not spoken by God nor was it attributed to be God speaking as I have shown you several times it was not a prophecy it was a poet speaking on the greatnest of his king.bd,You have shown me nothing…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Okay, I don't want to misrepresent your belief.However their are several types of trinitarian beliefs but if I understand you correctly it is your belief that God is the name of a collective of 3 beings, right?So God is Jesus, God is the Father and God is The Holy SpiritbutJesus is not God, The Father is not God and The Holy…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Because I do not see a question in Moses' statements “Two shall be one flesh” and “they are one people.”Do YOU see a question in there?Moses speaks of one flesh and one people. Where's the question?Do you disagree with the “one flesh?” Why?Do you disgree with the “one people?” Why?How would YOU have said it? In your own words?…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote The fact is the scripture does not say “will” bow or “must” bow it says “should” or “may” bow as in it is okay to bow because of his prestige but it makes it clear that if you bow let it be to the Glory of the Father.bd,Now this is really lame! You do not understand conditional verbs in the Greek. Paul was referring to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,10:43)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,08:20)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2009,05:21)Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 06 2009,23:18)I try my bestJesus told you to worship the One who sent him but you won't?Jesus told Mary that he was going to My God and Your God, Why don't you believe Jesus when he said…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote No, he didn't say that. But anyway who is the He who is THE GOD of Jesus.You said that Jesus was part of the God collection but clearly Jesus said God sent him, he didn't simply say the Father sent him but that God sent him and he was returning to his Father and God.Does The Father have a God now before you try some quick…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote They don't believe that Jesus is their mediator they have thrown out the office of Christ and since they claim Jesus as their God and not their Christ they are Anti-Christ they are of the ones that Jesus will say he doesn't know them because they have disposed of the Will of The Father.God said,Quote Therefore, God also has…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,10:39)Hi TT, Neither is he the Father.You preach a trinity god so please show another at the other hand.Trinitarians do NOT teach that Christ is the Father.thinker

bodhitharta said:Quote They don't believe that God is the head of Christ. They believe that God is Christ which is anti-Christ.They don't believe that Jesus is their mediator they have thrown out the office of Christ and since they claim Jesus as their God and not their Christ they are Anti-Christ they are of the ones that Jesus will say he…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 07 2009,10:13)Hi WJ and thethinker:Are you saying that in his position as head of the church, Jesus is not subjected to the Father?Love in Christ,MartyMarty,Christ is at the Father's right hand which is neither above or below the Father. And Isaiah 9:6 says that the government shall be on Christ's shoulders,Quote For unto us a…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Thinker,Jesus was discussing what he would be able to do at the right hand of God. He was talking about the future in the Kingdom of God.I know everyone likes to be right but sometimes we must concede certain things and I know you are someone who is dedicated to the truth even above your own viewpoint or desires.So once…[Read more]