bodhitharta said:Quote I manipulated a conditional verb? Why is it when I show you scripture that you don't like, you assign authorship to me?So, let me ask you this, If I said to someone your Mom and Dad have done so much for you and shown you so much love that you should do anything they want you should even kill everyone who speaks against…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote That is not a problem no one denies that Jesus came out from God it is only you that won't believe that God “IS” The Father.bd,The Father is just one part of the theotes (Godhead). Paul said that ALL the fulness of the theotes is in Jesus, Quote For in Him dwells ALL THE FULNESS OF THE THEOTES BODILY (Colossians 2:9)The…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote So as you can see Jesus said “Fear God and obey him(Jesus) because he is sent from God and speaking and acting on His behalf not that he is God in any way.bd,Make up your mind. You found fault with trinitarians for serving more than one Lord. Now you approve of serving more than one Lord. Which is it?   You say that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2009,19:52)Quote (thethinker @ July 04 2009,14:49)The thinker said:Quote The exact representation is the genuine thing.bodhitharta said:Quote But is it “the thing” itself?bd,I said that the exact representation is the genuine thing. What part of my statement do you not understand?thinkerHi TT, You do espouse logic do…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 08 2009,18:20)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 08 2009,10:45)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 07 2009,09:49)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 08 2009,05:45)Everyone,Why would Jesus say this to the devil if he was not God?Matthew 4:7Quote Jesus said to him, “It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.'”We all know…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 08 2009,18:12)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,08:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 08 2009,05:29)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 08 2009,05:23)If Jesus is not God, then why do you worship him?TC27Matthew 14:33Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”The boys worshipped him because he…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote In fact I challenge you to find one NT instance where (proskuneo) was directed to anyone other than Jesus and the Father without being discouraged by the recipient or was simply mockery.WJ,Your post was addressed to me. Do I assume correctly that the “I challenge YOU” part of your post was not addressed to me?thinker

Quote (Paladin @ July 08 2009,09:08)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,09:03)Quote (Paladin @ July 08 2009,05:05)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,03:22)Paladin said:Quote I have yet to find a reference to “unified one.”Then your head is buried in the sand. Let the record show that you could not (or did not as you say) refute the two examples you…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2009,08:54)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,16:11)Quote (Paladin @ July 08 2009,07:54)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,07:46)Paladin said:Quote He died. 2nd aorist = completed action, as compared with “He was dieing, linear action.You need to read ATR to understand what he means by “three tenses” in the past,…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 08 2009,05:05)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,03:22)Paladin said:Quote I have yet to find a reference to “unified one.”Then your head is buried in the sand. Let the record show that you could not (or did not as you say) refute the two examples you were given.thinkerNot interested.Not interested in refuting tooth fairy…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2009,06:21)Hi TC, So please show us from your scriptural education where God taught through any anointed servant that He is a trinity. If you cannot what have you preferred to study?Nick,See the Isaiah 48:12-16 thread I started.thinker

Quote (Paladin @ July 08 2009,07:54)Quote (thethinker @ July 08 2009,07:46)Paladin said:Quote He died. 2nd aorist = completed action, as compared with “He was dieing, linear action.You need to read ATR to understand what he means by “three tenses” in the past, since “past” IS a tense;and wha the means by “in the present two” since “Present” MEANS…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 08 2009,05:29)Quote (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 08 2009,05:23)If Jesus is not God, then why do you worship him?TC27Matthew 14:33Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”The boys worshipped him because he was the Son of God.  Not because he was God.If there was a distinction in…[Read more]

Mandy said:Quote With all due respect, I don't have time to look it up.  It's all here if you want to dig for it yourself.I totally understand that there are those Christians who believe that because of Jesus' ultimate sacrifice, that we are to worship his as God.  But the bible simply does not support that view.  We are told to worship God, th…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote He died. 2nd aorist = completed action, as compared with “He was dieing, linear action.You need to read ATR to understand what he means by “three tenses” in the past, since “past” IS a tense;and wha the means by “in the present two” since “Present” MEANS a tense; and “in the future one” since the “future” IS a tense.He is not…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 08 2009,03:57)Quote (Paladin @ July 07 2009,05:03)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,19:32)WorshippingJesus said to Paladin:Quote No the claiming Greek part is all you have been parading. You are the one that claims to know more than the translators and “Strong” and A.T. Robertson.and “every tongue confess that Jesus…[Read more]

WJ,I thought it quite bizarre that Paladin would use ATR to prove there is no past tense in the Greek and then give an excerpt from ATR which says the opposite.thinker

Quote (Gene @ July 07 2009,15:57)Thinker …………Why do you Trinitarians have to run all around and try to define some obscure translation or a mystery function to support you teachings , when Jesus simply in a few words said it plainly, have you ever thought about that brother? peace and love……………………geneGene,I did not say that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 07 2009,15:53)BD………you have it more right the word GOD (Elohim) simply means a ONE Unit, there are SEVEN SPIRITS with power that compose (ONE) GOD or Elohim, which is controlled by ONE LORD> Hear O Israel the LORD our GOD (POWER) is ONE (LORD), not two or three triune anythings. He is called the LORD (He Exists) with…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 07 2009,17:08)Quote (thethinker @ July 07 2009,03:14)Bodhitharta said:Quote This sentence literally reads “And now, the L-rd God has sent me, and His spirit.” The Radak explains that the prophet sometimes hears a direct voice spoken by God, and sometimes he may experience the vision of an angel sent to speak with him.…[Read more]