Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:34)Hi TT, So You think Jesus, the MONOGENES Son of God is God's ONLY SON? Few will agree and scripture certainly does notThe one who denies that Jesus is monogenes is condemned.Quote He that does not believe is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten (monogenes) Son of God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 12 2009,01:54)Thinker………..Scripture says that God alone Saves, whoever He does it through is irrelevant , rather Moses, Joshuah, Samson, David, Jesus or whoever He chooses to is beside the point, it still is GOD the FATHER Himself that saves and delivers.  All Glory of salvation goes to the FATHER Alone. Why cant you…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,20:34)Hi TT, Even demons believe so there is more to it. And to remain in fellowship with the Father and the Son you must abide in scripture.Nick,You would do well to examine yourself rather than others. You are the most judgmental person on this board. You recently said that Jesus is not monogenes. Yet we must…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 12 2009,01:38)Thinker……….Jesus is not the radiance of GOD's Glory, GOD's Glory radiates (through) Him. big difference. One looks at Jesus the other looks at the FATHER who is doing the WORK through Jesus. “The Father in me does the (WORK)> Trinitarians and Preexistences,  turn this around and Make Jesus Himself the WORK…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote NH………”BLESSED ARE YOU SIMON BAR-JONA BECAUSE FLESH AND BLOOD (JESUS WAS FLESH AND BLOOD) DID NOT REVEAL THIS UNTO YOU, BUT MY FATHER IN HEAVEN HAS REVEALED THIS UNTO YOU, AND I SAY UNTO YOU YOUR ARE PETER AND UPON THIS (ROCK) (the power of God to get into the mind and reveal truthGene,This was true at one time but is not true…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,20:41)Hi TT, Christ Jesus died. Read acts 2.22, 3.15,1Thess 4.14. etc etcIf scripture says he died why should we listen to you?And you say he is PART of God. Naah God is one and immortal.Jesus said,Quote Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up….He spoke of the temple of His body. After He was…[Read more]

Nick,One must believe that Jesus is the only begotten to be saved.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:34)Hi TT, So You think Jesus, the MONOGENES Son of God is God's ONLY SON? Few will agree and scripture certainly does notYes. All other sons are adopted. Jesus is not adopted but the only begotten. It is you who are in the minority even here.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2009,13:12)Hi TT, So your version does not include the death of God but somehow part of God?Nick,You are convoluding things. My wife and I are one flesh. If my wife should die a part of me died. What is so difficult in understanding this? And what do you mean by “death?” Christ died. But He did not cease to exist. He…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:35)Hi TT, Remember your laugh.You are not the Judge Nick. Scripture says that we must believe in the name of the only begotten Son of God in order to be saved. I believe that and I am saved. Even if I am wrong about the trinity God knows that we are sinners and therefore not perfect. Christ's blood covers me.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,13:59)Hi TT, So now you have decided that only in RETROSPECT are names relevant?You're avoiding me Nick. I said that all names had their ultimate fulfillment in Christ. thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:48)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,12:26)Hi TT, So if ELIJAH means YWHW is GOD what does that says about him? Are we now to preach God is a quadrinity?Who did Elijah save? All these names had their fulfillment in the person of Christ.thinkerWhat has been fulfilled?People…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:31)Hi TT, No islam was never a part of the Church. Just another man made religion trying to help men over the guilt problem.But trinity came from among us and drew the church into apostasy. That is why the Whore will have special punishmentCome ye out of her lest you suffer for her sin.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:28)Hi TT, MONOGENES does not mean ONLY.Nick,First, you're wrong about monogenes. Second, Genesis 22:2 says that Isaac was Abraham's “only” son. What has this to do with monogenes?thinker

Quote (Gene @ July 11 2009,17:02)thinker…….We are told that GOD so loved the world that (HE) gave His uniquely begotten Son. Jesus is also called the Lamb of GOD. And now is before the throne of GOD as a Slain Lamb. Jesus was Slain from the foundations of the world we are told , it was GOD the Fathers Plan all along to redeem the world through…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:45)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:32)bodhitharta said:Quote Where do you think Elijah and the others were Jesus says they weren't dead Hebrews 11 says that they ALL died in faith having not received the promise. Where did Jesus say that Elijah and others did not die? They went to paradise until the time of…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Sending someone away is not disowning them. God sent Jesus away and Jesus even said according to scripture My GOD, My God why has thou forsaken me?According to you Jesus is God so why say My God, My God, Why has thou forsaken me?Hagar thought she was being forsaken too until God told her otherwise.Of course the middle east…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,14:01)Hi TT, Trinity is the gross error that led most of the church into apostasy.Get free of that one and the rest will be easy.Nonsense Nick, So Bod's error is due to trinitarianism?thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:59)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:51)bodhitharta said:Quote The fact is Jesus was not crucified or killed he was raised up to God alive, although he was thought to have been crucifiedHave you ever wondered why Mary didn't recognize him when she thought he was the gardener?Why would Jesus be in disguise?To…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote The fact is Jesus was not crucified or killed he was raised up to God alive, although he was thought to have been crucifiedHave you ever wondered why Mary didn't recognize him when she thought he was the gardener?Why would Jesus be in disguise?To all,Can you see how anti-trinitarianism has led some into gross errors?…[Read more]