Paladin said:Quote AND IT WAS THE SAME ILLUSTRATION.Which is it? Literal; not literal?You cannot have it both ways.Did I ever claim that Hebrews says that Jesus is literally the radiance of the sun? NO! I originally said that He is literally the radiance of God. I used the sunbeams as an illustration. Now please deal with the facts I have…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote What contradiction? Do you believe the scriptures?It says GOD of our Lord Jesus Christ, then it says Father of Glory.But it does NOT deny that Jesus is God. The Father of glory in no way negates that Jesus is the Lord of glory,Quote …for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory (1 Corinthians 2:8)The…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,10:29)Hi TT, Indeed Jesus radiated every aspect of God. God was in him.Nick,Hebrews is talking about Christ as God's radiance BEFORE He became flesh. Read it.thinker

Wrong again!bodhitharta said:Quote The Law of Moses says that the scapegoat on which all the sins are laid is never killed it is presented before the Lord Alive. If Jesus was crucified your sins are not being beared by Jesus.Leviticus 1610 But the goat on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Ephesians 1:16-18 (New King James Version)16 do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,Your point being….thinker

Quote (Paladin @ July 12 2009,10:05)Quote (thethinker @ July 12 2009,08:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,06:12)Hi TT, So to you the light and heat of the Sun are the Sun? How far will you wander into folly in defence of man's doctrines?Nick,Why do you take my illustration literally? It is not me that looks foolish when you do that.thinkerMore…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 12 2009,09:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,16:48)Hi TT, Not at all. The finger of Father God is not EVER separated from Him.Hi NHThe Lord is that Spirit, so is the Lord his own finger?Does a finger have a mind and a will and experience grief, and teach, and lead, and guide, and shew, and comfort, and pray and on…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2009,09:51)Quote (thethinker @ July 12 2009,09:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,08:50)Hi TT, So tell us again how what comes from the Sun IS the Sun.You say Jesus is like unto God as the sunlight is to the Sun. It seems a poor analogy as the sun is more than light and heat.Nick,Thank you for acknowledging that I…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2009,07:31)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,19:28)Quote (Gene @ July 11 2009,17:02)thinker…….We are told that GOD so loved the world that (HE) gave His uniquely begotten Son. Jesus is also called the Lamb of GOD. And now is before the throne of GOD as a Slain Lamb. Jesus was Slain from the foundations of the world…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2009,07:28)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,19:19)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 11 2009,13:45)Quote (thethinker @ July 11 2009,13:32)bodhitharta said:Quote Where do you think Elijah and the others were Jesus says they weren't dead Hebrews 11 says that they ALL died in faith having not received the promise. Where did Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,08:50)Hi TT, So tell us again how what comes from the Sun IS the Sun.You say Jesus is like unto God as the sunlight is to the Sun. It seems a poor analogy as the sun is more than light and heat.Nick,Thank you for acknowledging that I was using analogy. Hebrews 1 says that Christ is the radiance of God. The Greek…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2009,06:25)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,19:31)Hi TT, No islam was never a part of the Church. Just another man made religion trying to help men over the guilt problem.But trinity came from among us and drew the church into apostasy. That is why the Whore will have special punishmentCome ye out of her lest you…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Then why did Paul circumcise Timothy?What? Do you not read narratives in context? It clearly says that Paul circumcised Timothy because of the Jews. It was not binding. Circumcision as a requirement had just been done away in the Council. Come on! Paul circumcised Timothy to avoid opposition from the Jews. I will eventually…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,06:12)Hi TT, So to you the light and heat of the Sun are the Sun? How far will you wander into folly in defence of man's doctrines?Nick,Why do you take my illustration literally? It is not me that looks foolish when you do that.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 12 2009,07:09)Hi TT, The Spirit is as the finger of God Do you not feel pain when you hit your finger with a the hammer?Nick,You totally iognored my point about the Spirit experiencing sorrow. And the only way a finger can feel pain is if a person resides in the body of which it is a part. Does unhabited flesh feel pain? thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 12 2009,06:53)Quote (thethinker @ July 12 2009,06:28)Nick said:Quote You really Believe that the Spirit is another PERSON?Paul said,Quote Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30)The Greek word for “grieve” means “to cause sorrow.” Tell us how a non-person can…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote You really Believe that the Spirit is another PERSON?Paul said,Quote Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30)The Greek word for “grieve” means “to cause sorrow.” Tell us how a non-person can experience sorrow Nick. Please enlighten us.thinker

bodhitharta said:Quote You are not understanding the scriptuures at all because God had already mede the promise to Abraham regarding Ishmael and plus Ishmael had already gotten circumcised the same day that Abraham was circumcised, God said that it was an EVERLASTING COVENANT so when exactly did this EVERLASTING COVENANT end?bd,First, the Hebrew…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote What a sad commentary on scholarship which you lay such proud claim to.It doesn't matter what he is the image of, he is still the image and not the substance.And you certainly are dodging the point, that “Person” of God is singular, of which Jesus is the image. I marvel that Paladin can impugn another man's scholarship seeing…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Heb 1:3 also says Jesus is the image of God, not God.  And further, it says he is the image of his person, singular, not persons plural, so Jesus cannot BE tha tof which he is an image. If he is the express image, as the KJV suggests, than he would have to be a multiple image to be the express image of a multiple person God.It…[Read more]